Zamboanga White was bred by mother nature herself--hatched, out of the bosoms of her mountain, of exotic Zamboanga's.

Boy Primallion was a poor man, and she had chosen this poor man to take care of her precious breed--for a reason, perhaps, only a mother knew best.

Why she had chosen the color of white, of all colors, which, then, in the eyes of the cockfighting world, had symbolized the color of blood---of defeat, and of what we eat, again, only our mother nature knew best.

Zamboanga White was a breed perfected by nature herself---the mother of all breeders, perhaps, to teach us a lesson or two.

One is to teach us respect: Respect for a dunghill.

The most vilified and most crucified of her creatures, its blood, splattered all over the cockpits, and inside our kitchens, had cried for justice, and she had heard those cries.

Man must be punished--those who looked down and trampled on her beloved dunghills.

For what our mother nature had seen and felt, was the height of human ingrate's.

She must have felt wounded if not insulted, for she had bred the dunghills, too.

Man forgets easily and this time he must remember what he must not forget.

That a dunghill was meant for something beautiful, and not just for our greedy apetite, but for something greater than our stomach: The cockfighting world

Mother nature had therefore chosen a poor man to teach the rich man what losing to a dunghill means; that a dunghilled chicken could make a "dung" of his money; that cockfighting supremacy should not only be ruled by the most expensive cocks, but, sometimes, by the most inexpensive cocks.

Zamboanga White was a dunghill perfected by nature, a mother's gift to a poor man, whom she had chosen to best teach the rich man, to deliver her most telling message, that she remains, the mother of all breeders.

That there's no such thing as a "dung" among her creations, that what was a "dung" in the eyes of the moneyed, the kind which their money would not even priced, was to our mother nature, a priceless piece of art, meant to make a masterpiece of; the eyes of man, mother nature seemed to have chastised, could be very deceiving.

To make something beautiful out of the ugly, perhaps, was the second thing mother nature had wanted to teach us.

That the breeder's "vocation" is for him to create his own work of art, and not to imitate, and borrow somebody's masterpiece, a breeder ought to be an artist, too.

So it is no easy imitating mother nature in her works of art.

For the science of man for all its genius in genetics does not even compare to her idea of beauty.

In fact, man often destroys what she has created beautifully--earning for him the ire of mother nature herself.

So it sometimes compels her to send us a strong message, "if you can't make something beautiful of the ugly, at least, don't destroy them."

But when her message fell on deaf ears, she had to make the bearer of her message at least commanding of our attention: Zamboanga White

The color of white took the cockfighting world by surprise.

As it whipped the most feared of all reds and greys ruling the planet of cockfighters--the blood they expected to see covering the whiteness of this white-colored dunghill, instead flowed out from their once fearsomed warriors, expiring unceremoniously, decimated.

Mother nature was pleased to see justice done: Swift and deliberate

For seven years Zamboanga White had captured the imagination of men--the "myth" created out of a "chicken meat," that used to rule our dining table; but then the table had been turned, the "myth" in flesh and blood, was to become the legend of the Zamboanga White.

Now whoever will claim to be better than mother nature, herself, as a breeder, wait for another of her strong message, nay, the new bearer of this message; what kind of an unexpected color she will choose again to deliver the most compelling of her message; that will catch us offguard, most especially, those popularly bloodlined cockfighters?

Rooster Man

Originally posted by Rooster Man:

Zamboanga White was a dunghill perfected by nature
Rooster Man

I wonder what Golden Dragon has to say about that statement.

[GoldenDragon]

roosterman hello !!!

where do you get your information lol !!!!

the whites were never a dunghill they were
a nick , a throw back from the original red bought from bren palmares...

I think what you mean is ::: that the color WHITE was never a favorite of pilipino cockers which is true... but , after the fantastic showing of jun cuellos' white, it became a favorite and most sought after fowl in the philippines which is again very true.

although, they did not look as good as a sweater , what with their broom stick tail feathers (walis ting-ting tail) but
the body is very well balanced and in perfect comformity to its tail.

another thing my friend totoy dela cruz has always told me that the whites were enchanted
fowls... a toy of the gods in olympus.
and that when the gods felt that boy P.
was already wealthy enough, they took it back to olympus... I hope this is what you want to say.

but to say that the zamboangas were dunghill... I do not think so.

Roosterman, what is this prediliction with verbose and long winding statements? Are you a frustrated writer? As the saying goes, the shortest way between two points is a straight line, so please please don't go around in circles. Nakakahilo ka eh....

bam

Gallos Locos,

How are you, partner?

I've been missing you a lot, but thanks for your time, even if you're too busy with your business.

Been concerned lately with your privacy?

Just delete the word "businessman" from your own profile, for that's where I saw it.

And by the way, I still owe you a big apology, I am sorry for having compared you with a communist, I did not mean it.

I was just attacking their main ideology.

Rooster Man

Originally posted by GoldenDragon:
roosterman hello !!!

where do you get your information lol !!!!

the whites were never a dunghill they were
a nick , a throw back from the original red bought from bren palmares...

I think what you mean is ::: that the color WHITE was never a favorite of pilipino cockers which is true... but , after the fantastic showing of jun cuellos' white, it became a favorite and most sought after fowl in the philippines which is again very true.

although, they did not look as good as a sweater , what with their broom stick tail feathers (walis ting-ting tail) but
the body is very well balanced and in perfect comformity to its tail.

another thing my friend totoy dela cruz has always told me that the whites were enchanted
fowls... a toy of the gods in olympus.
and that when the gods felt that boy P.
was already wealthy enough, they took it back to olympus... I hope this is what you want to say.

but to say that the zamboangas were dunghill... I do not think so.

Golden Dragon,

Don't worry this is not an official statement coming from Boy Primallion.

This is just a "myth" taken out of the "chicken meat," just to whet your apetite for the dunghilled chicken.

Besides, ZW is too perfect of a dunghill to be mistaken for one, this is just one secret to "throwback" those unbelievers.

Mother nature creates myths and legends in the minds of men, and enshrouds it under the secrecy of the unthinkables--because men always thinks of a way to imitate, not to originate.

Rooster Man



[This message has been edited by Rooster Man (edited 03-03-2002).]

Bam,

Fortunately, I am not a writer.

If I were, I would really feel frustrated to read your comment. There you are right.

For real writers are more idea-oriented, not personality-oriented.

Thanks for your compliment.

Rooster Man

[This message has been edited by Rooster Man (edited 03-03-2002).]

Zamboanga Bloodline is not yet out of the running boys, it is here to stay.



Too much fad on the new breeds thou, but if you got this bloodlines....you can't go wrong with it.


The cutting ability of this bloodline is superb!!!

Fought this against Jet Fernando's Jimafer Sweater, one quick decisive blow and the fight is over.

[GoldenDragon]

Never knew you were a zambo fan !!! we must get together
sometime , exchange of notes on zambo fowls , bring your dad along. it will be very nice to see you guys again.

cheers !!!

[Desert Dust]

I'm a number one fan of the zambo white. when i decided to come back there and breed, i know where to go. so keep them as much as you can. i will contact you anytime(if you allow me).

DD

[GoldenDragon]

WELCOME NA WELCOME KA SA FARM KO !!!

basta when you are here , do not hesitate, just come....
no need to bring anything.... I am a mean cook.. you'll see.

here is my cell number # 0906 306 2152 the farms' address will be given to you via email or text when you are here.

Iam keeping them in the best of health for you or when ever you decide.

goldendragon

[Desert Dust]

I love food, alam mo naman cabalen tayo, pero gusto ko rin ang bicol food, mahilig kasi ako sa spicy , parang yung mga mexican food, yung mga xiano dito talagang mahilig sa mga sili, pero meron silang sili na hindi kumakagat papawisan lang ang ulo mo, hindi katulad ng siling labuyo kumakagat sa dila. pm ko sa iyo ang # ko.

Dante D

Dati pa po!!!.........



ilan years na since the last time you visited my farm in Antipolo.......same breed pa rin....can't let go of the whites!



Auntie pa add naman ng info.....here


See you soon!!!


Hello na lang kay Tito Bobb!!!

[DC&SCentro]

Whites will always be in our yard no matter what!

But still I need to know what really Zambo white is.....

Ma'am GD, wish we could visit your farm when we next touch down in PI next year.

It's our pleasure to meet you personally at During's last UBBA tupakits held on 23rd April.... you're one of a kind maam.....

We love you!!!!

donats/aka KingG

[GoldenDragon]

hello ducati,

I must have done something wrong coz I can't post at Pintakasi.
Com...... can you please send me my user name\password sa
email addy ko : princess88@qinet.net thanks

see you saturday sa San Mateo... tito bob will be there too.

auntie

[GoldenDragon]

that kita-kits was very memorble something for the books, the food was great, the people fantastic...

sayang I did not know you love whites too... what kind of whites do you have ?

if you remember I fielded 4 entries sa durings even though they were only 13-14 months old and fighting with older cocks...sayang yon natalo dahil nakatuka lang ang kalaban.. that is why it is wise to fight only aged cocks.

the two that won with no scratch were combination of andy millers' sweater and white zambo hen. I will be doing this combination again I was very pleased with them.

I was preparing a white to fight at San Mateo this saturday but nakawala this morning so cancelled ang fight niya nakipagbakbakn ayon maga ang mukha. but I will be fielding 3 others zambo red, zambo grey & zambo black. sana manalo.

YOU are most welcome to visit me and my farm next time you are here si ka lando at si eric lang kasi ang mahal ninyo :wink2:

here is my cell # 0916-706-6864

Manay GD, musta po kayo, been a while maam.

[GoldenDragon]

how are you wilfred ? let me know whats been keeping you busy ? istorya ka noy ?

ducati thanks but i still can't go in....

jon_elasique,
the zambo blacks has been with me since 1993 its not new.
they are good looking , powerful fowls , may angat din but not that high, bigger boned than the whites... I love these fowls too.

e.lon... the zambo whites they are the ultimate fighting machines.
you will love their style , their intelligence, and the way they dance .

see them for yourself at my farm. cheers !!!

guys, watchout for the comeback of THE real zamboanga whites this coming 2005 BAKBAKAN stag derby!!! see you there...:rbounce:

[silver2dmoon]

ducati....ganda ng zambo white mo. I noticed my streaks of some other shades ....is he pure zambo then ?

Golden Dragon,
is ducati's zambo white the same line with the yellow leg zambo white i have ? parang mas dark yellow ang legs noong kay ducati ? pls. enlighten me.

thanks ! CAN'T WAIT TO SEE MY ZAMBO CROSSES w/ toppie ....:smoke:

have a pleasant weekend GD !

Hello to ALL!

just passing through am from California, thought it was a delight to read about the ZW and all the comments, unfortunately i have never seen on in person...missed that era when they dominated the pits back home. I am an avid fan of whites however and do appreciate the great ones! Hats off to anyone having any white birds out there! i too have had my own line of roundheads infused with thompson years back and occasionaly throw a white one now and then, these are precious to me and have had my own line of "lacy roundheads" over the years the cockers and fanciers refer to them as white roundheads, i've had them now for 16 years and have done very well. A lot of people know me here in southern cali.....under chit chat SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BARANGAY THREAD. just had a show of them not too long ago and did well. nice to visit your CHAT again HATS OFF TO ALL THAT HAVE THE WHITE BIRDS! sometimes you have to be game yourself to show your birds lol!!! just make sure they price!

true to the sport,

"malloy"

Hello again Manay GD, yup been tied down with too much things to do, a little there, little here hehehe. here's one of them did a face-lift of my bahay kubo down south. take it easy manay. GTG

The Zambo White hens that I have are peacomb, the cock was very low stationed and is straight comb. The original hens legs are deep yellow as with the beak. But i preffered the 3rd generation of hens that has a lighter yellow colored legs and white beak.

We fought the cock because it did not suit our taste, it won four times before he was brought to the brood pens, we realized he has indeed the potential to be a broodcock inspite of his being low stationed. He produced medium to high stationed stags.



We were left only with the hens when a freak flood killed the broodcock. We were able to breed them with several bloodlines, the most outstanding was breeding them with our Dan Gray Roundheads--White with streaks of redish accents and with our Greys--White without the red feather streaks.


We were able to produce a better looking gamecock if compared with the original whites. The matings with the Dan Gray's produced gamer and are more athletic/ stylish. The mating with the Grey (Scout Ranger line) cock produced the same style of offspring but with brute power.


The closed family matings we did produced ugly whites that look like dunghills but has superb cutting accuracy. A sample pic of the seedfowls in the yard of my uncle.


I'll be breeding some whites again this comming season, hopefully I can produce some for pit action....after 2 years maybe.




@Auntie paki silip ulit sa email yun activation link.




BPZKId!!! :rbounce: Can't wait to see the Zambo Whites back in action.

[DC&SCentro]

Ma'am GD,

Meeting you once makes us feel we met for more than thousand times....

Mahal ka namin more than ka Lando and Eric, you will see next time we set our feet at our native land. Ikaw ang una sa agenda namin ni Ambucao.... promise..

Thanks for the invitation, di namin palalampasin yan....

I got a cross claret since the original bcock passed away, may natira naman sa offspring 3 hen na lang, yung isa nasa hiraman.

Yang white ang di ako mawawalan, and currently i am looking for a pearl white, para cross back ko at lalo ma-maintain ko ang white sa yard ko.

TY again ma'am GD, we're so glad we met..

We love you,

KingG/donats

[GoldenDragon]

wow dami pala natin na may gusto nito.

silver2dmoon sent you an email ... luis F. is okey.

BPZkid ... way to go , good luck we'll certanly be there !

ducati916.. will try again.

wilfred1958 : dios ko naman bahay kubo yan baka puede din akong magrequest ng maski isa lang...

king gerard\donuts :
sarap naman niyan....huwag sanang mabasa ni lando at eric :lol:
I sent you an email hope matangap mo.

cheers to all white fowls lover ....

[b_tigas]

nakakuha po iyung tiyo ko ng manok ni BPZ .ang wing band ay may tatak na BPZ at tel .# doon sa wing band .ang nakita ko manok ay maiksi ang buntot alinttulad sa leghorn sa unang tingin yung manok. mababa nga yun .patay malisya ang style kunwari di palaban . pag mabilis yung kalaban zig zag ang style at buhos sa baba ang mga palo di nag papa aksaya ng palo yun puos shoot sa kalaban mga taga! panget po tingan ang manok.pero ang laro ay super..iba sa laro ng mga imported na blood lines mas gusto ko yung zambo dahil sa sharp shooter sila at wise sa laban. sino po nakaka alam ng phone# ni BPZ? balak ko bumili maski sisiw man lamang or stag.matagal ko na miss ang white.ma swerti kulay ko ang white.salamat po.............yung manok ng tiyo wala na patay na din tiyo ko last dec 2004...sa mga hinde nakaka alam ng manok ni BPZ. huwag muna kayo huhusga sa itsura ng manok kwidaw kayo napakagaling po... PLS. email me lmbhispeed@yahoo.com
:smoke: :rbounce:

Mam princess,

Dont forget!! i'm one of those ZW fanatic...they're doing good back in Cavite.....

MALLOY,

I saw that White Roundheads of yours from Fred(ehtibak)...nice looking hen......wish to bring one in the Philippines hehehe...HOw are you?.....remember when we watch concert in Manila(I am Red's brother -in- law)

.........anyway, i think Zwhites have some Thompson blood. Is that true Mom GD?

[GoldenDragon]

:lol:
mukhang number 8 din ang favorite mo.
that news is very nice to hear... kasi ang detractors ng zambo white sabi laos na daw.. pero maski minsan hindi ako naniwala doon. nagpatuloy pa din ako , breed pa din ng breed....

see now, there are a lot of people still interested in them.
a breeder might go down due to illness or other problems but the fowls they have created never ever will be laos.

that holds true with the lemons too... paeng araneta may no longer have the line but those that kept it still have it up to now and still doing good with it.

not THOMPSON but THOMASON.... unfortunately, I've been looking for years now for this breed THOMASON but to no avail.
the line was supposed to have been very famous in the 50s
so it must be gone now.

CHEERS to all white fowls lover doesn't matter what bloodline basta't puti welcome to the club.

[I.C.F.]

Hello Maam,
Im also a member of CF unfortunately di pa po tayo nagkikita, Im also out of our country. Next Global Derby sure na kasali po ulit ako so I'll try to find u there and have chicken talk about your Zambo White an d Im also interested to get a "pair or trio "perhaps, Im looking forward to meet you soon,
so ngayun lang po ay ikinagagalk ko na kayong makilala...

I.C.F. Batangas Warrior (john ramos)