brunner roundheads...

cedreq · November 29th, 2002, 06:28 AM

any idea...?genetic make up and fighting
style of brunner roundhead..?what is the
difference between lacy and brunner RHs.?

HAPPY THANKSGIVING DAY TO ALL!!!

December 1st, 2002, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cedreq:
any idea...?genetic make up and fighting
style of brunner roundhead..?what is the
difference between lacy and brunner RHs.?
cedreq, brunner rh came from allen rh but a little blood was added to it. brunner is good cutter and my trio came from tennessee. brunner is harder to find and for me is better. make sure you got a good brunner.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING DAY TO ALL!!!

cedreq · December 2nd, 2002, 06:38 AM

Abu...actually what i have right now are not
pure bruner...they're bruner x leiper cross
stags from TN. too..

Edward Catahay · December 2nd, 2002, 08:07 AM

Click on this link about the brunner's bloodlines/history. http://www.gamefowl.com/showthread.p...hlight=brunner

YFIS
Ed

Troy · December 2nd, 2002, 11:17 AM

Mr. Catahay, I am very interested in reading the history but the link does not work. Can you please cut and paste maybe? Thank you and more power...

Edward Catahay · December 3rd, 2002, 01:20 AM

Here is the post by tvagamefowl.

Bruner Roundheads.
Cedreq, The Bruner RH are just as Edwin spoke of a make up of the old Allen blood. They where first known as the Cowan Roundheads whom T.K. Bruner fed for as Cowan and Bruner where partners. When Cowan left the sport he left the Roundheads to T.K.Bruner. Bruner felt the round heads needed some infusion of new as they where inbred and started have short and brittle feathers, so Bruner added Gull blood to the roundheads and since was born the Bruner Roundheads.

Bruner's partner later on was the late Willis Holden and Bruner left Holden the Bruner's when he past on. Later on when Holden was getting out he left the Bruner's to a good friend of mine Mr Jack Smith of N.C.. Jack is the orginal half of rooster village and the man responsible for the bruner's that set such a great record at copperstate and in the Islands in the longknife.He is also the man who let Billy Abbott have the bruner's and also is the man who let Larry Morris of W.V. have the Bruner's.I myself have Jack Smith to thank for MY start in the Bruner Roundheads as if it where not for Jack I would not have been able to obtain this family of Roundheads.

The Bruner's that Jack has had for better than 60 years and his friends also come White, yellow, and blue legged. with the blue legg being a throw back to the grist champion blood in the allens.
They are extemely deadly cutters that fight just as smart as any asil you have ever seen, with no wasted motion at all when they dedide to hit it usually is a killing blow. Also I will add if bred close they will come out looking just like pure asils completely in all shape, form and fashion. Hope this helps.

YFIS, tva.

__________________
Cutting ability its what wins fights.

EAA Indians · December 3rd, 2002, 11:23 PM

Cedreq, the cross of Brunner RH and Leiper should produce a battlecross with speed, very good cutting, brainy and power. It was very nice for Edward C to share the history of the Brunner RH. We have the Larry Morris Brunner comming white and slate color legs, the Brunner is indeed what was describe in the article. We are crossing the Brunner with the Hugh Norman Lacy RH to duplicate the Billy Abbott strain that won many events in the U.S. and Philippines. The HN Lacy RH is a ring general and has a little more bottom coming from the whitehackle. The round body (like a top - "turumpo") gives it the ability for a quicker turn as compared to a long bodied cock.

spangle · December 4th, 2002, 12:00 AM

Chief,
Did you cross your Brunners to the Lights Out Clarets? or was it with the Lacy's? I got some of the Lights Out White Clarets and I wonder where to cross them good; I would appreciate your comment about the afformentioned line. You can respond thru my e-mail that you can find in my profile.

Thanks,

spang

EAA Indians · December 4th, 2002, 01:43 AM

Spangle, I sent you an email to your question.

cedreq · December 4th, 2002, 03:59 AM

EAA INDIAN,

your description about Brunner RH x Leiper
cross seems to be promising...speed..brains
power and good cutting ability....?man!what
more will i ask for..?i just hope they will
turn out to be just like what u've describe them.
(crossing fingers)...

i wish you goodluck on your quest,by breeding
two roundhead strain to come up w/ a formidable roundhead bloodline...

[This message has been edited by cedreq (edited 12-03-2002).]

EAA Indians · December 4th, 2002, 03:14 PM

Cedreq, the Leipers that I have seen were relentless attackers, you have to literarily use your muscle to separate the Leipers. Another breeder's advice that we should consider is: One old breeder shared with me, that too much speed makes the bird attack "through" rather than "into" the opponent. "Through" attackers usually does not fully extend their legs to put away the opponent in one or two buckles. "Into" attackers usually drill their heels deep-into the body of the opponent, thereby providing the fight ending blow. He had observed that "into" attackers have fully extended their legs, hips forward, horizontal body and with all their weight and forward momemtum behind the blow, and at the last moment- drill their heels (tinutukod). He added that he prefers a combination of speed and "into" power which promotes good tempo. Good tempo in most sport is an advantage because it synchronizes all the styles into a controlled attack with a purpose. Good luck.

[This message has been edited by EAA Indians (edited 12-04-2002).]

spangle · December 5th, 2002, 11:52 PM

Chief,
I think I have a problem with my e-mail host; I did not get your reply re: Lights- Out Clarets crossed to Roundheads. You can direct your reply to my other account at bustalinos@aol.com. Thanks again.

Best Regards,

Spang

EAA Indians · December 7th, 2002, 03:44 AM

Spangle, I sent my reply to your aol.com email.

December 28th, 2004, 05:24 AM

December 28th, 2004, 05:27 AM

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December 28th, 2004, 07:23 AM

there are a lot of breeders who breeding of TK Bruners bloodline that mostly came from larry morris of west virginia and russel pool breed by mr. william greene ofelm city NC these are supposedly direct from willis holden, they are truly high percentage winning chicken and could withstand closed breeding.

December 28th, 2004, 12:54 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 28th, 2004, 03:29 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!

juan luna · December 28th, 2004, 06:36 PM

i already visited that site & i got a lot of info from that site re: history of strain w/c of course includes the brunner roundhead try to visit it & you will get a lot of info from there.

November 29th, 2002, 06:28 AM	#1
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cedreq CyberFriends Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Negros Occ. Phils / Binmaley Pangasinan Philippines Posts: 1,569 Posts: 1,569 vCash: 84904222923	Abu...actually what i have right now are not pure bruner...they're bruner x leiper cross stags from TN. too..

December 2nd, 2002, 08:07 AM	#4
Edward Catahay Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 113 Posts: 113 vCash: 500	Click on this link about the brunner's bloodlines/history. http://www.gamefowl.com/showthread.p...hlight=brunner YFIS Ed

December 2nd, 2002, 11:17 AM	#5
Troy Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 191 Posts: 191 vCash: 500	Mr. Catahay, I am very interested in reading the history but the link does not work. Can you please cut and paste maybe? Thank you and more power...

December 3rd, 2002, 01:20 AM	#6
Edward Catahay Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 113 Posts: 113 vCash: 500	Here is the post by tvagamefowl. Bruner Roundheads. Cedreq, The Bruner RH are just as Edwin spoke of a make up of the old Allen blood. They where first known as the Cowan Roundheads whom T.K. Bruner fed for as Cowan and Bruner where partners. When Cowan left the sport he left the Roundheads to T.K.Bruner. Bruner felt the round heads needed some infusion of new as they where inbred and started have short and brittle feathers, so Bruner added Gull blood to the roundheads and since was born the Bruner Roundheads. Bruner's partner later on was the late Willis Holden and Bruner left Holden the Bruner's when he past on. Later on when Holden was getting out he left the Bruner's to a good friend of mine Mr Jack Smith of N.C.. Jack is the orginal half of rooster village and the man responsible for the bruner's that set such a great record at copperstate and in the Islands in the longknife.He is also the man who let Billy Abbott have the bruner's and also is the man who let Larry Morris of W.V. have the Bruner's.I myself have Jack Smith to thank for MY start in the Bruner Roundheads as if it where not for Jack I would not have been able to obtain this family of Roundheads. The Bruner's that Jack has had for better than 60 years and his friends also come White, yellow, and blue legged. with the blue legg being a throw back to the grist champion blood in the allens. They are extemely deadly cutters that fight just as smart as any asil you have ever seen, with no wasted motion at all when they dedide to hit it usually is a killing blow. Also I will add if bred close they will come out looking just like pure asils completely in all shape, form and fashion. Hope this helps. YFIS, tva. __________________ Cutting ability its what wins fights.

December 3rd, 2002, 11:23 PM	#7
EAA Indians CyberFriends Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,865 Posts: 1,865 vCash: 500	Cedreq, the cross of Brunner RH and Leiper should produce a battlecross with speed, very good cutting, brainy and power. It was very nice for Edward C to share the history of the Brunner RH. We have the Larry Morris Brunner comming white and slate color legs, the Brunner is indeed what was describe in the article. We are crossing the Brunner with the Hugh Norman Lacy RH to duplicate the Billy Abbott strain that won many events in the U.S. and Philippines. The HN Lacy RH is a ring general and has a little more bottom coming from the whitehackle. The round body (like a top - "turumpo") gives it the ability for a quicker turn as compared to a long bodied cock.

December 4th, 2002, 12:00 AM	#8
spangle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 597 Posts: 597 vCash: 500	Chief, Did you cross your Brunners to the Lights Out Clarets? or was it with the Lacy's? I got some of the Lights Out White Clarets and I wonder where to cross them good; I would appreciate your comment about the afformentioned line. You can respond thru my e-mail that you can find in my profile. Thanks, spang

December 4th, 2002, 01:43 AM	#9
EAA Indians CyberFriends Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,865 Posts: 1,865 vCash: 500	Spangle, I sent you an email to your question.

December 4th, 2002, 03:59 AM	#10
cedreq CyberFriends Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Negros Occ. Phils / Binmaley Pangasinan Philippines Posts: 1,569 Posts: 1,569 vCash: 84904222923	EAA INDIAN, your description about Brunner RH x Leiper cross seems to be promising...speed..brains power and good cutting ability....?man!what more will i ask for..?i just hope they will turn out to be just like what u've describe them. (crossing fingers)... i wish you goodluck on your quest,by breeding two roundhead strain to come up w/ a formidable roundhead bloodline... [This message has been edited by cedreq (edited 12-03-2002).]

December 4th, 2002, 03:14 PM	#11
EAA Indians CyberFriends Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,865 Posts: 1,865 vCash: 500	Cedreq, the Leipers that I have seen were relentless attackers, you have to literarily use your muscle to separate the Leipers. Another breeder's advice that we should consider is: One old breeder shared with me, that too much speed makes the bird attack "through" rather than "into" the opponent. "Through" attackers usually does not fully extend their legs to put away the opponent in one or two buckles. "Into" attackers usually drill their heels deep-into the body of the opponent, thereby providing the fight ending blow. He had observed that "into" attackers have fully extended their legs, hips forward, horizontal body and with all their weight and forward momemtum behind the blow, and at the last moment- drill their heels (tinutukod). He added that he prefers a combination of speed and "into" power which promotes good tempo. Good tempo in most sport is an advantage because it synchronizes all the styles into a controlled attack with a purpose. Good luck. [This message has been edited by EAA Indians (edited 12-04-2002).]

December 5th, 2002, 11:52 PM	#12
spangle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 597 Posts: 597 vCash: 500	Chief, I think I have a problem with my e-mail host; I did not get your reply re: Lights- Out Clarets crossed to Roundheads. You can direct your reply to my other account at bustalinos@aol.com. Thanks again. Best Regards, Spang

December 7th, 2002, 03:44 AM	#13
EAA Indians CyberFriends Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,865 Posts: 1,865 vCash: 500	Spangle, I sent my reply to your aol.com email.

December 28th, 2004, 05:27 AM	#15
jsacayan2000 Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 28th, 2004, 07:23 AM	#16
renealbay Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	there are a lot of breeders who breeding of TK Bruners bloodline that mostly came from larry morris of west virginia and russel pool breed by mr. william greene ofelm city NC these are supposedly direct from willis holden, they are truly high percentage winning chicken and could withstand closed breeding.

December 28th, 2004, 03:29 PM	#18
jsacayan2000 Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 28th, 2004, 06:36 PM	#19
juan luna Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 68 Posts: 68 vCash: 500	i already visited that site & i got a lot of info from that site re: history of strain w/c of course includes the brunner roundhead try to visit it & you will get a lot of info from there.