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I would want to voice out my persisting problem here since you are the owner of this site, and this forum is intended for comments, suggestions and criticisms...suffice to say lend me your ears and pls. hear my grievance. My problem started some weeks ago when i had a misunderstanding with a fellow member here by the name of DESERT DUST whom i had a few arguments (but no malicious & curse words were used) this occured on the thread DENG KAPAMPANGAN NAMAN in chit chat forum, most of my topics were written in our local dialect. As a man, it is only logical that when you are confronted with allegations and issues, it is only natural to voice out your contentions and there is no wrong with that as long as you do it the proper way, but what i got is not fair after a few postings of answering with the issues my handle BUSHPIT was banned 4 no valid reasons at all, to think all of my arguments with Desert Dust were isolated on our thread and written on local dialect, hence i didnt make a big problem on this site that would mean offensive to everyone here.
I was badly affected with that incident because i lost all of my important letters from my friends here on my PM INBOX.I have no choice but to create another one by the name of BUSHPITT, and i thought my problems would end there, but i was wrong. When i started posting on our thread like greeting friends, making cocking stories, i would notice after creating a new post my post would just disappear after a few minutes, this happened for several times, the last two incident only this day, the first one was posted in Chicken talk in the thread about good broodcocks, i made a comment about the post of a certain american with the handle of ELLISGAMEFARM saying that Filipino cockers dont give much important on gameness of chickens... of course as a filipino faced with this wrong notion i have the right to object and voice out my opinion as a member of this site, but again as i've said that post was deleted again for no valid reasons at all, i didnt use foul nor vulgar words, i only made an opinion asserting the greatness of the Philippines when it comes to cockfighting as an answer to a fellow american cocker who have the notion that Filipinos dont take gameness in consideration when in comes to cockfighting, im sure as a Filipino you will also not agree on what he said. Another deleting incident happened just a few hours ago, this occured in Usapang manok, under the thread THL TAMBAK GAMEFARM owned by my friend Edwin, i made a comment about a cocker's fulfillment and success in cockfighting which is achieved by dreaming and exerting real endeavors, i made Edwin an example and Boljak the famous handler who made it big, and congratulated the former for his newly open cockpit, yes that was only the content of my post, but still it was deleted. Another thing i want you to know is even confidentiality of a member here is sometimes violated, take for intance my case with Zwetchga,Sadam etc. she was able to know my other handle by the hospitality extended to her by a moderator. It seems that there is also palakasan on this site, which can be used against a helpless member like me. Once i made a complain about the open tirades of Guapito on me by using foul and uncalled for words, to no avail. Yes this is a free site & i dont pay a single centavo here, and that there are existing rules and regulations that a member must abide and at anytime i can be ban or kick on d ass, but am i not entitled to be treated fairly as your fellow sabungero? you might tell me that im free to go at anytime i wish, but thats not easy for me i have been here since 2001, i have met a lot of friends thru this site. Hence my only request is that these bad experience be corrected, as you have said all moderators are all professionals, but in my humble opinion being a professional is not an assurance that they cannot make mistakes, we're all humans we are capable of doing such. I dont even know if this post of mine will be there for an hour or two, all i wish before anyone there would delete it, that this grievance be read by the owner of this site. GOD pls. protect my post from ill treatment. :hippie: |
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puera delos buenos....i'm with you kaibigan:hippie:
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Me too......
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ayon po sa aking nabasa sa kasamang bushpit para po yatang tama siya siguro po ay dapat tayong mag karoon ng equal na pag tingin sa mga member ng site na ito, alam po namin na nasa inyo ang kamay para lapatan ng parusa ang nag kasala pero siguro naman po ay ating muling isipin ng dalawang beses kung nag kasala talaga sila . sang ayon po ako na ma banned ang mga taong gumagawa lang ng gulo pero sana naman po ay bigyan ninyo ng karapatan din ang mga ito upang mag paliwag kung bakit nila ginawa ang mga bagay na hindi dapat. at bigyan pa ng pag kakataon. marami pong salamat.:hippie:
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bushpitt
tama ka jan!
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masyadong mahaba yung english.di ko naintindihan .pero mukhang kainitan yata? sex talks po ba yan? joke,joke joke lang...:lol:
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Bushpitt,
Your handle Bushpit was not banned unilaterally, your banning was done with consultation from the Kapampangan group. So I guess you are barking up the wrong tree, go bark somewhere else... |
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Luis (b_tigas),
Ok sana kung sex talk kaso hindi...medyo, mahirap makaintindi yung isa dito...hindi naman mahirap maintindihan... |
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Ayan ang tingnan nyo...
Isipin ba naman na ang sentimyento ni bushpit ay mapagkamalang Sex talk?:lol: isa pa, ok na sana iyong response ni boss malalim kaya lang bakit may pasubali pa? :hippie: Boss malalim (peace tayo) di ko lang gusto iyong pasubali mo...Sabi nila tiga mahabang dahilig daw ako.. Peace!
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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no comment
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Isa lang ang nag-pepersonal sa akin doon, no more no less , com'on i have many friends there and we do always meet in person, my friendship with them is beyond this cyber thing. So certainly its not the majority.In my opinion i was banned arbitrarily.
Enough with the banning issue. How about those deletions that i cited? can you kindly give me an explanation why it was done? considering the fact that hindi naman offensive ang mga yon, like yong nag comment ako about Easter na maging yon ay na-delete din, why? pati narin yong moderator na nag reveal kay Zwetchga ng ibang handle ko, bakit kailangan pang gawin yon? Ang formal ng tanong ko kay SENTENCIADOR then here you are answering me rudely ginawa mo pa akong aso, be that as it may, nagsusumbong nga ako sa may ari ng site, alangan namang tumahol ako sa mga ordinary members dito eh kaya ba nilang mag ban arbitrarily at mag delete ng post ng isang member dito? I made this thread on this forum because according to your site this is for COMMENTS,PRAISES, SUGGESTIONS, CRITICISMS etc. I made a COMMENT why i was banned & why a non offensive post is being deleted. I did SUGGEST that this thing be corrected right? and i CRITICIZED the act of the moderator who revealed my other handle to Zwetchga. SO AM I BARKING WITH THE WRONG TREE? eh sino kaya talaga ang di nakakaintindi ngayon? Ok pala saiyo ang SEX TALK eh bakit hindi kayo gumawa ng forum na ganon dito :lol: O wag niyo delete ito ha, im on the proper forum:hippie: |
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Malalim,
Me as one of the member of KCA group and as their treasurer don't even heard about this banning consultations.The only thing that puzzled me was when Bushpit post something on my Tambak 1 THL thread why delete the whole thing and not just delete his post. I know i don't pay a single cent on this site and you guys have all the decisions to do so. :hippie: |
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Edwin,
I can not comment on the deletion of the postings as I wasnt the one who deleted it. I was just commenting on the banning of the username "Bushpit"...please read my PM... |
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To the moderator,
I'am also one of the kapampangan group and was nominated as one the group officials. Bushpit for serveral times had posted an apology to all concered on some of his post that he made a mistake. Hope you will consider his request to re- instate his handle name and his mail box if its still possible. Looking forward for your consideration. salamat po m abe |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Blatantly...i just don't buy nut stories. As i've said Roy a.k.a malalim those are my friends even outside of this site. sometimes God allows lies to happen ..but temporarily....even in petty things like this..god will always make a way 4 the truth.
Kong Edwin, Romel, Dacal a salamat kekayu, di na ako nag PM sainyong mga officers pra tanungin kayo about that "infamous consultation'' never did i believe that even the first time i read it.:hippie: |
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Sabi ng mga tagalog, kung ano ang itinanim, shang aanihin. Sa totoo lang Medyo Bularit then ay nabanga kaagad ng iilan. before
Tinamaan ka ng "first impression, mahirap matanggal yun! kahit maganda na ang intention mo ng pag post, nakakabit pa rin ang mga past experiences ng iba sa mga bagong post mo bularit. Ang experience ko dito ay for as long as Objective ang poster, kung mag joke ay dapat malinis at hindi nakakasakit ng kapwa, at be professional in dealing with your fellow poster. Ako ang dami ng kalokohang pinag gagawa dito pero buhay pa rin ang handle kow!:lol: |
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It was not an arbitrary decision, the complaints came from your group. The decision to ban also came from your group, IP's logged also do not lie, that is very factual...an indiscretion was done, a decision was handed down...
We may not be able to ban your desire to re-register, but we can ban the IP...we havent banned the IP and so far we have shown some restraint...We are not playing God, just trying our best to protect the common good as we see it... |
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excuse me bushpitt, reading through your post, "As a man, it is only logical that when you are confronted with allegations and issues, it is only natural to voice out your contentions...", i can't help but smile funny cause here you are complaining about being alleged wrong and yet your issue with me was never settled.
i was trying to ignore your posts after that incident between us, but it really bothers me that someone accused me of something i am not and of something i did not start. i am not guapito as you believed. i did not say any foul words about you or defame your name as you did mine even after i found out what you did to get a person's affection/attention. i was asked to apologize in that person's behalf for the foolish behaviors exhibited. i did not mention or PM'd your name to the concerned. do you want me to post proof so i can substantiate my argument here, or settle this in a more matured manner? i was asked to just let it go, but mannn, i just can't, hope you guys underst and... |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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no comment
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Kilala kita at isa ka sa mga buddy ko doon sa isang handle ko noon
FYI na banned yong handle na Bularit kasi pinintasan ko ung bagong classified adds nong may bayad na siya, pero tinanggap ko nman ng maluwag yon, wala ako naka away na member dito.At sa aking opinion walang relevance ang bagong issue ko d2 sa dating handle ko na binanggit mo, dahil nag start ito sa thread namin na hindi nman tagalog ang salita at may naka bangga tayo ng kababayan doon, hence isolated case lang ito.:hippie: Roy Malalim Im open to any due sanction as long as i deserve it, i can bear the banning, but with regard to those issues that i cited in my post recently which up to know doest have any answer from your group, like my non-offensive post like the Easter greetings and the recent post of mine about Thl Tambak thread which even Edwin did mentioned, the latter being our officer and Morila Abe being our President doesnt know what consultation to the group your speaking of, can they be by passed with the consultation? being the treasurer (Edwin) much more a president in the person of Morila Abe? lets be specific here so we can substantiate the veracity of the ''group decision and consultation issue" you keep on insisting. If just to save face here, at least one of those Kabalens who belong to the group who ALLEGEDLY want me out should by this time already came out to prove me wrong, would that be hard for them to do? assuming if they indeed exist? i dont think so. So far two officers came out, no less than the president of our group whom we call Kapitan Morila Abe, no less than the latter would certainly inform me even atleast thru txt, that indeed there was a consultation. Napaka busy ng mga tao sa DKN thread upang pag aksayahan pa nila ng time ang pag ba banned sa akin. So far you just keep on the banning issue, but dont give any single explanation as a moderator on the other issues that i raised, Saan ka ba makakakita ng nag greet lang ako ng Easter as a reflection of holy week ay i-de delete pa? nag congratulate lang ako sa isang member dito na Cyberfriends pa nman dahil sa bagong bukas niyang sabungan ay na-delete din, why? ano bang implication ang pwedeng idulot sa site na ito ng mga post na binanggit ko at kailangan pang burahin? for the common good? saan ang good don? is it justifiable to delete a clean post or a harmless one? is it justifiable for a moderator to reveal to other members here the other handle of a fellow member? just because Zwetchga is close to that moderator? you are trying your BEST for the common good? as a member of this group i belong to the aspect of common good though im not asking you to protect me, but atleast spare me with those abovementioned things that i cited as my grievance. What is the relevance of my IP address on this issue? did i make an issue about this? you just extracted that on my signature below, so what's the relevance of raising it up here, when it is way below there? is this your way of indirectly threatening me? If banning my IP is your last recourse to get even with me... sorry to tell you i would always comeback because i have lots of friends here whom i cant just leave.If that ever happens there are thousands of Internet cafe outside my doorstep waiting 4 me. Anyways, lets just stick to the issues at bar, IP ADDRESS is not one of my grievances. I'll just try not to comment further after this, a lot has been said, i believe there are a lot of prudent minds there to judge who is tenable between us. |
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SAWALA, U just defame me by accusing me of getting that person's AFFECTION/ATTENTION? God Forbid! no need! i love my GF very much & everyday of seeing my gf's face is really heaven to me. kayo ang bagay non taong sinasabi mo dahil mas close kayo, and to add more wala kang alam pero she is very fond of you, no offense meant pero sabi ni Medy sa akin ikaw daw ang BF niya sa net at yan ay walang halong biro, napakalakas ng dating mo sa kaniya.
Aminado nga ako na nagkamali ako na ikaw nga si Guapito, dahil according kay Blue guapo daw si guapito, Bottomline lang ng issue natin ay bakit kapa nagpa utos allegedly kay Zwetchga? eh hindi niya ba kaya? di nman special child yon di ba? why join the issue when it can be avoided nman and not to hurt the feelings of people like me, take a peek at the origin of the issue not the implication. LALAKE AKO AT DI LANG BREEDER NG MANOK, HETO PARA MAHINTO NA ANG SA ATIN ..SORRY SAWALA :hippie: You can go on what you have and reveal it here, di nman ako madi dis-Bar jan:hombre: |
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Bushpitt/Bularit
Wala naman akong pino post na comment dito sa gulong ito? Bakit ako nakasali dito? Baka ibang tree ang ibig mong tukuyin? |
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Correction lang po Sir BUSHPIT di po yan GF ni SAWALA si MEDY,Zwet,Sadam at Pass_away.:lol: Maganda po at sexy ang misis ni sawala hehehe
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sister wicked!!!
aba!!! hindi ko alam iyan ha? ang alam ko talaga ay ikaw ang misis ni zwetchga.
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Hindi kuyan alam ah EL GUAPITA
Sa pag Kaka alam ko ikaw yung BF ni ZWET. Ikaw pa nga nag Sabi na para kayong Aso at Pusa Ikaw talaga EL PAPITO, Mulang nakita mo ang PICTURES ni Bulaklak mo Eh, ngayon Kahit kanino munalang binibigay:lol: |
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Bushpitt,
I have already mentioned before, I did not delete the postings so I will not comment on that and I dont want to second guess the reason. I am commenting on the banning of the username "Bushpit" because we received several e-mail complaints regarding postings that were irritating the hell out of the Kapampangan Group...I acted on the complaint, the recommendation to ban "Bushpit" came from your group as well... I have nothing more to say...I have no personal agenda to even think of getting back at you...If you think this is a case of getting back at you...This is also not "saving face", cause I have the e-mails to prove it...so better ask your group not me...I PMed edwin on the banning issue... This is my last reply as everything on my end has been said... |
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Ka Edwin,
Before the banning incident, Malalim even called me in Bagiuo and told me about the ruckus in the kapampangan thread. The moderators, including me were consulted sir, and also your cabalen members. Actually as moderators we don't even need to consult anyone. As Malalim said, we have the emails and the REPORTED POST TO THE MODERATORS private messages. Second, in your thread started by GAMEFOWL, nothing was deleted except the post of BUSHPITT. Your post states that the thread was deleted but its not, check it out. |
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Ka Joey,
I was still in Pinas when i found out about the deletions and even checked it first before i reacted. Anyway now that the TAMBAK 1 THL thread is back everything is fine on my side. Thank you guys and now that i'm getting old i don't dwell on conflict anymore. Thanks again Malalim and Joey. CANDABA SQUARE GARDEN:hippie: :wink2: |
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palakasan system
Im wondering why ther are some nonsense post being froozen and keep for a long period of time.But some post were deleted just a few seconds??just asking?
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