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Old February 24th, 2010, 02:58 AM   #1
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whos got bole asils..

The story i heard was mr.boles was sick and he killed all his birds...Man who killed all his birds in this manner....what are the chances anyone has them pure..come on ..kills his own birds but people claim to have them pure......his actions dont make me think he was interested in anyone getthing his fowl...Could anyone shed life on this story because i dont have any facts..thanks
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:20 AM   #2
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Hey Tex from what I've researched and looked for there is some that do have them but as with anything that makes money everywhere u lookpeople have them for sale some high dollar Ans some fair priced.the conclusion I have come to is this topics ruffles a lot of feathers. But if you have some and are content woohoo but names don't make winners. It depends on how you cross them and prepare them. I say this because the first bird I ever owned was an Oriental cross and first fowl ever purchased was Asil (boles to top it off) but the crosses I made. With them are something else. Where as I got friends that wouldn't take an Oriental if you paid them. Went off subject completely but boles to me is a name which I too am guilty of searching for but because u have a boles doesn't mean u will win. There is a thread on hear. Long a$$ thread at that but very interesting. Look through archives
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:22 AM   #3
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Hey Tex from what I've researched and looked for there is some that do have them but as with anything that makes money everywhere u lookpeople have them for sale some high dollar Ans some fair priced.the conclusion I have come to is this topics ruffles a lot of feathers. But if you have some and are content woohoo but names don't make winners. It depends on how you cross them and prepare them. I say this because the first bird I ever owned was an Oriental cross and first fowl ever purchased was Asil (boles to top it off) but the crosses I made. With them are something else. Where as I got friends that wouldn't take an Oriental if you paid them. Went off subject completely but boles to me is a name which I too am guilty of searching for but because u have a boles doesn't mean u will win. There is a thread on hear. Long a$$ thread at that but very interesting. Look through archives
i heard the same that he never let a bird out of his yeard but im not sure so i cant say id like to see if anyone has them pics though
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:34 AM   #4
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Jim Clem would know as much as anyone... but what I hear is this... Bobby Boles & Les Melville were partners at one time... the reason they broke off the partnership is, Les let some of the birds out & that pissed Bobby off... so... if Les let some out & once was partners with Bobby... it only stands to reason that someone has em... including Les.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:38 AM   #5
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Jim Clem would know as much as anyone... but what I hear is this... Bobby Boles & Les Melville were partners at one time... the reason they broke off the partnership is, Les let some of the birds out & that pissed Bobby off... so... if Les let some out & once was partners with Bobby... it only stands to reason that someone has em... including Les.
yeah that is very true id like to see a "real" one ya know i hate seeing ppl say they have them but there not
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:51 AM   #6
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oh boy here we go again fasten your seatbelts folks lol
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:54 AM   #7
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The story i heard was mr.boles was sick and he killed all his birds...Man who killed all his birds in this manner....what are the chances anyone has them pure..come on ..kills his own birds but people claim to have them pure......his actions dont make me think he was interested in anyone getthing his fowl...Could anyone shed life on this story because i dont have any facts..thanks
i would not be interested now on who has pure bobby boles fowl
i am rather interested on who breeds now bobby boles fowl that are winning in major longknife competition in the philippines
not just in hackfights or 2 or 3 cock derby

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Old February 24th, 2010, 04:01 AM   #8
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Instead of the Bobby Boles Asils.... why not get some of the birds Bobby couldn't whip? Yes, Bobby did have a nemisis... Stan Wardell & his Whitehackles.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 04:03 AM   #9
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Instead of the Bobby Boles Asils.... why not get some of the birds Bobby couldn't whip? Yes, Bobby did have a nemisis... Stan Wardell & his Whitehackles.
yeah slip i heard that mentioned before about stan in chat lol
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Old February 24th, 2010, 04:43 AM   #10
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The story i heard was mr.boles was sick and he killed all his birds...Man who killed all his birds in this manner....what are the chances anyone has them pure..come on ..kills his own birds but people claim to have them pure......his actions dont make me think he was interested in anyone getthing his fowl...Could anyone shed life on this story because i dont have any facts..thanks
Bobby shipped 33 of his last remaining chickens to a guy in Denver CO before he passed on, so this story you heard is not entirely accurate. Most of the chickens were later killed in a tornado strike though.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 04:48 AM   #11
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Bobby shipped 33 of his last remaining chickens to a guy in Denver CO before he passed on, so this story you heard is not entirely accurate. Most of the chickens were later killed in a tornado strike though.
IVE NEVER HEARD THAT STORY..TORNADO STRIKE..THE STORY IS HE DUG A PIT AND KILLED THEM HIMSELF..WHY ONLY KILL A FEW AND NOT ALL..A TORNADO THATS A STORY..LOL
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Old February 24th, 2010, 04:53 AM   #12
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Instead of the Bobby Boles Asils.... why not get some of the birds Bobby couldn't whip? Yes, Bobby did have a nemisis... Stan Wardell & his Whitehackles.
is stan wardell still alive..i dont know who he is....
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Old February 24th, 2010, 05:01 AM   #13
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IVE NEVER HEARD THAT STORY..TORNADO STRIKE..THE STORY IS HE DUG A PIT AND KILLED THEM HIMSELF..WHY ONLY KILL A FEW AND NOT ALL..A TORNADO THATS A STORY..LOL
Well now you heard it.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 05:03 AM   #14
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is stan wardell still alive..i dont know who he is....
jus goes to show texas you'll hear all kinds of stuff lol
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Old February 24th, 2010, 07:11 AM   #15
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is stan wardell still alive..i dont know who he is....
Nope, Stan died 4 or 5 years ago... his birds are still around... Jerry Lawrence is Stans nephew & supposedly has em... the Hugh Norman Gleezen Whitehackles came from Stan originally.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 07:34 AM   #16
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First Of All Bobby Boles/ Clarence Boles Are Brothers. On The Will As He Was Still Alive . Instructed Clarence As Bobby Was A Witness Clarence Killed All Of The Bobby Boles Pure Asils . Note: One Exception One Trio Was To Be Given To An Unknown Benefactor. All Else Was Crosses. So No One Has Pure. I Knew Stan Wardell He Was A Very Dear Close Friend, I've Known Him To Have Lived Utah, Oregon, And All Of Claifornia. He Was Good Friends With Lloyd Miner , Bernard Kessler, Larry Arrlingotn, Hennie Methisues, Stan And I Set On The Tree Stumps Many Of Times. I Went To Derby's With Him. He Worked The Derby's For Me . We Talked All About The Greats And How All Different People Approached Gamefowl . As Well As Different Weapons Used . Stan Was
A Very Approachable Personwith Keen Mine Lots Of Experience. In All Phases Of Gamefowl . We'd Go Fishing Have Dinner & Lunches Together Breakfast Together . Those Times Are Just Sacred. Towards The End We Still Talked To Each Other When He Finally Passed Away. In The Great San Joaquin Valley.

God Bless You, And I Know You Are With The Rest Of The Greats Hacking A Few. Stan Wardell

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Old February 24th, 2010, 07:36 AM   #17
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First Of All Bobby Boles/ Clarence Boles Are Brothers. On The Will As He Was Still Alive . Instructed Clarence As Bobby Was A Witness Clarence Killed All Of The Bobby Boles Pure Asils . Note: One Exception One Trio Was To Be Given To An Unknown Benefactor. All Else Was Crosses. So No One Has Pure. I Knew Stan Wardell He Was A Very Dear Close Friend, I've Known Him To Have Lived Utah, Oregon, And All Of Claifornia. He Was Good Friends With Lloyd Miner , Bernard Kessler, Larry Arrlingotn, Hennie Methisues, Stan And I Set On The Tree Stumps Many Of Times. I Went To Derby's With Him. He Worked The Derby's For Me . We Talked All About The Greats And How All Different People Approached Gamefowl . As Well As Different Weapons Used . Stan Was
A Very Approachable Personwith Keen Mine Lots Of Experience. In All Phases Of Gamefowl . We'd Go Fishing Have Dinner & Lunches Together Breakfast Together . Those Times Are Just Sacred. Towards The End We Still Talked To Each Other When He Finally Passed Away. In The Great San Joaquin Valley.

God Bless You, And I Know You Are With The Rest Of The Greats Hacking A Few. Stan Wardell

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chef that's good you have the memories to tell though you sat and were with him and that's a good thing you have with you
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Old February 24th, 2010, 07:37 AM   #18
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if u want the close asil and that good like bole, you might want to contact mr claypole, bucky haws which these 2 breeder breed those asil from bob howard. i believe bob howard asil just as good as boby bole. i believe bob howard were pole best friend so is claypole.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 10:40 AM   #19
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just want to let you guys know that i cant say about every thing but Bob Howard got his from Les melville from Oregon , dont want to argue but i know this for a fact as Robbie White took him to Les M home to get them . Robbie said that himself also. and Les says he has Boles chickens and i beleive it and thats good enough for me . as he did real well with them and as for . the ones that came from Ray Collins in Texas he told me that he got his from Les M . also so if he doesnt have Bobs stuff he must have gotten good birds cause alot of people have done well with them.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 10:52 AM   #20
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Doesn't Mac White Play A Role Somehow ? Just Asking ?

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Old February 24th, 2010, 11:00 AM   #21
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Re: whos got bole asils..

Try reading these threads:

http://sabong.net.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=11949

http://sabong.net.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=40968

No use in reposting everything right?

After some years of reading, researching and owning some "now", I came to a conclusion that the Boles Asil is just another oriental like any other...

It don't matter if you have the "Real Mccoy" or something like it or something from it... If you do not know what to do with them and get them prepared like any other game fowl, then you ain't got nothing... Right Mr. Jim?

Also, to echo the long discussion, Bobby Boles has been gone for some time, "if ever" he did leave any pure ones (and I believe he did), they are not the same as they were when he bred them, for better or worst...

I would take everything I read about the Bobby Boles Legend with a "grain of salt" as the man is not here anymore to tell us the facts from his own words...
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Old February 24th, 2010, 12:10 PM   #22
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what were the real bobby boles asils.What kind were they cobras,atkintsons japs etc,,,
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http://hatchpower.multiply.com/photo...N_SOUP#photo=4
i used to breed them
then came the time
i had to turn them all into chicken soup

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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:11 PM   #24
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Instead of the Bobby Boles Asils.... why not get some of the birds Bobby couldn't whip? Yes, Bobby did have a nemisis... Stan Wardell & his Whitehackles.
howzit slip, just wondering why the boles couldnt whip those whitehackles.
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yes, from mac whites own writing he states that he asked robbie white if he could get some asils from bobby boles. robbie told mac that he cant get any from bobby and nobody else can get them either unless they steal them. so robbie told him that he knew of someone else who had good asils and that was les melvill. the first off spring of the original trio from les was no good, les sent mac another trio and out of that trio is where he got the goods. mac crossed him onto some sid blood from dr. herring. bob howard called mac white and asked if he could use the asil grades. then bob wanted to buy all the grades from mac. with the consent from les, mac sold the fowl to bob howard. bob howard did well with the grades, then the fowl were sent to the p.i. mac white states that every asil cross rooster that bob howard showed were bred and raised by himself, james mac white.
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Try reading these threads:

http://sabong.net.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=11949

http://sabong.net.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=40968

No use in reposting everything right?

After some years of reading, researching and owning some "now", I came to a conclusion that the Boles Asil is just another oriental like any other...

It don't matter if you have the "Real Mccoy" or something like it or something from it... If you do not know what to do with them and get them prepared like any other game fowl, then you ain't got nothing... Right Mr. Jim?

Also, to echo the long discussion, Bobby Boles has been gone for some time, "if ever" he did leave any pure ones (and I believe he did), they are not the same as they were when he bred them, for better or worst...

I would take everything I read about the Bobby Boles Legend with a "grain of salt" as the man is not here anymore to tell us the facts from his own words...


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Try reading these threads:

http://sabong.net.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=11949

http://sabong.net.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=40968

No use in reposting everything right?

After some years of reading, researching and owning some "now", I came to a conclusion that the Boles Asil is just another oriental like any other...

It don't matter if you have the "Real Mccoy" or something like it or something from it... If you do not know what to do with them and get them prepared like any other game fowl, then you ain't got nothing... Right Mr. Jim?

Also, to echo the long discussion, Bobby Boles has been gone for some time, "if ever" he did leave any pure ones (and I believe he did), they are not the same as they were when he bred them, for better or worst...

I would take everything I read about the Bobby Boles Legend with a "grain of salt" as the man is not here anymore to tell us the facts from his own words...

well said chris...........
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Old February 24th, 2010, 11:47 PM   #28
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Instead of the Bobby Boles Asils.... why not get some of the birds Bobby couldn't whip? Yes, Bobby did have a nemisis... Stan Wardell & his Whitehackles.
I agree with you slip.

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Old February 25th, 2010, 02:05 AM   #30
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Kingrooster : Is Stan Wardell The Uncle To Jerry Lawrence Of Texas.
Because When I Was In Cottage Grove, Oregon . Off Of Rattle Snake Rd,
Stan Wardell Was Living With His Grandson. Forgot His Name, I've Never Met Jerry Lawrence. The Name And The Connection Too Conquincedal Pls Clarify.

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