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July 14th, 2008, 06:54 PM
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Quality Of Breeding Materials
What Is Your Basis?
Any Inputs, Suggestion, Opinion. Brainstorming Lang Po. |
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July 15th, 2008, 12:34 PM
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How do you asses its quality? kailangan bang maging imported para masabing quality? kailangan bang mas mahal ang pagkabili mo para masabing quality na yung materials mo? does it mean ba na bumili ka sa isang bigtime breeder you will get thesame quality chickens they fight? No harm intended po, gusto ko lang pong malaman, ano ang dapat nating maging sets of standards to raise quality and competetive gamefowls in the sports.
Naniniwala lang po ako that if we dont set our own standards, we wont go far from breeding and raising competitive gamefowls considering the time, cost and expenses. c22aba/alex |
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July 15th, 2008, 12:49 PM
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Tama ang sinabi mo na dapat we should set our own standards kaso iba iba talaga ng standards ang iba ibang tao. Iba iba rin kasi kayang budget at iba iba rin ang venue ng laban. Meron din naman mahina pumusta.
Quality of course is quality. Basta maayos, tested, at lahat ng gusto mo qualities sa panlaban nandun eh yun ang quality for me. Presyo cannot always be a reason for quality. Pwede nadengoy ka lang kaya mahal. Al |
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July 15th, 2008, 02:12 PM
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Re: Quality Of Breeding Materials
and masabat lang. yung training style mo sa offspring dapat gumamay sa strain or linyada na kukunin mo. i read that somewhere
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July 16th, 2008, 04:32 PM
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Marami ang seller na nagsasabi na quality ang breeding materials na binebenta nila kaya ang ginagawa ko sa umpisa ay sa off-season breeding ko sila una pinapa itlog (dapat malalaki at may semilya) kapag nakalusot ang 80% na sisiw na mabuhay at mas maraming healthy ang lalaki na lalabas ay pde na sila sa aking standard para gawing brood materials.
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July 24th, 2008, 05:04 AM
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July 24th, 2008, 05:05 AM
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July 28th, 2008, 12:49 PM
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VQ, NICE POINT, MARAMING QUALITY FOWLS, BUT NOT ALL QUALITY FOWLS ARE QUALIFIED SA COMPETION SA PINAS W/C IS KNIFE OR SLASHER TYPE , SIGURO MABUTI TINGNAN MO RIN KUNG PANG SLASHER BA, OR GAFF YUNG BIBILHIN MO, AS SOME ENDED UP TO DISAPPOINMENT LALO NA YUNG MGA NAG IIMPORT NG MANOK. PHOENIX, MAY POINT KA, ALTHOUGH SA AKIN ANG BASIS NG QUALITY KO IS SA RUEDA, PERFORMANCE WISE, AT YUNG LEVEL NG COMPETITION NA SINASALIHAN MO( AS MENTION BY ONE OF OUR FREIND HERE SA NET), SINO BA ANG MGA NAKAKALABN MO, AT GAANO KABILIS PUMATAY ANG WARRIORS. MAGANDA SIGURO, KUNG MAY QUALITY KA AT PERFORMANCE WISE. JUST MY POINT. |
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July 28th, 2008, 01:46 PM
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tama ka dyan. at habang tumataas ang cock/stag derby na sinasalihan (4, 5 6, 7, 8.. cock/stag derby) at gumaganda ang score mo, dyan mo pa lang masasabi na quality nga ang mga manok mo. |
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July 28th, 2008, 08:23 PM
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Yung ginagamit ko, mahigit nang 30 years na gamit ng mga uncle ko. Kaya di ko na kailangan mag aksaya ng panahon at pera (na talagang wala ako. . . hehehe) sa pag experiment ng crosses. AT least sa ganitong paraan, alam ko na kalalabasan bago pa ako mag umpisa mag breed. Sila kasi ang sumasali sa malalaking derbies sa bacolod. Lamang naman sa panalo. |
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July 28th, 2008, 08:30 PM
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Tatlong bloodline lang gamit ko. Lemon, Sweater at Hatch. Yun din lang pinaka base blood nila.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...m/extra008.jpg Sioson lemon http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...m/extra007.jpg Dink Fair Sweater http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...m/extra006.jpg Cecil Hatch Di pa ako malilito kasi tatlo lang. At kahit anong cross ang gawin ko, nagawa na ng mga uncle ko at nasubukan na nila. Tipid na ako. hehehe |
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July 28th, 2008, 09:04 PM
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VERY NICE LOOKING FOWL..... Looks very familiar, hehe. Goodluck on your breeding. |
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July 28th, 2008, 09:39 PM
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Boss kagaganda naman nito...sana makatipid din ako dito  yung lemon kaya..ahh yung sweater na lang...hatch na lang...ang hirap lahat magaganda ...kahit ano na diyan sa tatlo na yan. goodluck sa mga ito bossing |
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July 28th, 2008, 10:34 PM
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Hello Sir Chili_sm, hehehe. Kamusta na? Di pa ko nakakuha ng grey. binalikan mo ata ah. hehehe. Thanks sir. Goodluck to you too. |
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July 29th, 2008, 01:00 AM
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Lesson: If you already have a proven and reliable strain of crosses, keep and maintain it.
Sometime between 1995 - 1997 I fought mostly crosses of Bob Howard Kelso over Carol Nesmith's Yellow Legged Hatch owned and breed by my kumpare. That combination gave us good winning percentage. Unfortunately, my kumpare got sick and he stopped breeding giving away all his precious crosses to close friends. When I went for vacation, I was fortunate enough to have a straight bred yellow legged hatch (purified on mother side) from one of his friends. This cock won 3x in derbies mostly unscratched except on the 3rd fight where he lost his one eye. I used him as broodcock crossed with the NEW strains like the BB sweaters. And the result is perfect - good high breaker, good cutting with lots of power at the bottom. This 1/2 yellow leg hatch 3/8 BB sweater 1/8 albany - 14 months won in a derby against an aged, beautiful sweater looking cock giving away 8-3 odds. http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...4022008057.jpg |
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July 29th, 2008, 09:31 AM
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Chito, Kumusta na... pag naka uwi ako sa sept ay tawagan kita para may kitakits peo kung busy ka ay sa Jan uwi uli ako para sa candelaria derby. Regards na lang sa family Mike |
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July 29th, 2008, 09:51 AM
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Piliin mo ang Cecil hatch.Time tested na yan.Hit game talaga.Makikita mong gagapang ang mga yan gamit ang pakpak nila kahit bali na ang mga paa para lang makapalo at kahit agaw buhay na nakakapagbitaw pa ng matitinding palo. |
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July 29th, 2008, 10:30 AM
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nice one brad...
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July 29th, 2008, 10:30 AM
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taas ko lang po
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July 29th, 2008, 11:13 AM
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sir c22aba,
I would like to share my thoughts and experience in acquiring fowls. a) Importante sir proven fowls...proven in the Big league if possible...as bloodlines that win in the Big league is the common way of identifying quality fowls para sa akin. Multiwinner lines kung maaari. Multiple wins sa malalaking labanan at dapat against a Bigtime cocker rin ang mga panalo ng mga linyada niya...diyan pumapasok yung mga breeders na mga sikat na...(like Nene Abello, BM, SL, JGT, Biboy, Lance, Aguirre etc). huwag po kayong magalit sa akin kung di ko nabanggit yung idol nyo...halimbawa lang po iyan. b) Kapag bibili ka sa isang known breeder with proven lines, Titignan mo rin yung mga ratio ng mga winnings ng mga bumibili sa isang sikat na breeder....kasi baka nga nananalo siya pero yung mga namimili naman sa kanya ay di naman nananalo ang mga napalahi...e di problema iyon. c) Sabi ni Mr. Biboy Enriquez sa akin to maintain Fowl's Quality dapat I-maintain rin daw yung Facilities or at least provide your quality birds with good and complete facilities rin...I took this advise from him seriously. He made a big point here. Minsan sinisisi natin yung breeders na binilhan natin na bulok yung napalahi natin o binenta sa atin...pero di natin nakita yung pasilidad natin na kulang kulang pala. d) Know-how sa pag-aalaga ng manok....like facilities kailangan tama at naaayon rin ang pagpapalaki natin pati pagpapakain...minsan sinisisi natin ang mga breeders na nabilhan natin pero yung pinapakain natin at pagkukundisyon natin ay mali at kulang... e) last but not the least....kontrol sa sabong....diyan tayo tatagal sa ating nakahiligan... share ko lang pix ng mg stags ko... From BM's WSC 2005 Winner Broodcock http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL129.../326698445.jpg http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL129.../326698087.jpg Biboy Bulalayaw Crosses http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL129.../326698049.jpg http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL129.../326698065.jpg Lemon-Gavilans http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL129.../326698429.jpg http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL129.../326698384.jpg Lemon-Gilmore-Gavilan http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL129.../326698125.jpg Roundhead-Lemon-Gilmore http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL129.../326698413.jpg cheers! Last edited by GamefowlService : July 29th, 2008 at 11:17 AM. |
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Hi Mike. Will be really nice to meet and talk when U come to manila. Just send me a PM. Ingat. |
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July 29th, 2008, 12:40 PM
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Mine is in alangilan. Different way. I'm still in Laguna trying to earn feed money. hehehe. You'll have a lot of cocks to choose from. He's held on to some bullstags last year. If they're not moulting yet. Goodluck sir. Last edited by joebertm : July 29th, 2008 at 09:02 PM. |
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NICE POINT THERE, GAMEFOWL, KASI NO MATTER HOW QUALITY ANG NAKUHA MO, BUT W/OUT CARE AND SETTING ASIDE KUNG ANO BA YUNG GOAL MO, I DONT THINK YOU WONT GO TOO FAR, ANG KADALASANG KASI NATING MARIRINIG SA MGA BUYER AT PUMAPASOK SA GANITONG SPORTS, LALO NA PAG BUMIBILI SA MGA SIKAT AT BIGTIME BREEDER, PAG HINDI SILA NA SATISFIED SA NAKUHA, BULOK DAW O CLASS B, O C ,OR WHAT SO ANG BINIGAY SA KANILA, INSPITE OF PAYING A BIG AMOUNT OF CASH. ANG HINDI NATIN NAKIKITA, ANO BA YUNG REQUIREMENT MO? WELL OF COURSE GUSTO NATIN NAGPAPANALO, SAPAT NA BA PARA SABIHIN YUNG NAGPAPANALO? BE SPECIFIC. WINNING IS JUST THE BEGINNING. |
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nice thread up ko lang po,,,,,nice 4 d bigginers..
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SIR ASK KO LANG. SUPPOSED YOU GOT THE CHANPIONSHIP THIS YEAR FOR BAKBAKAN 9 STAGS... NEXT YEAR DI MO NA NAKUHA CHANPIONSHIP... MEANING DI NA QUALITY MANOK MO? |
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consistency po ang ibig kong sabihin. |
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In my opinion, another way of testing your Quality Line (To Be) Bred Fowls is to pit them against Older Roosters and see how they perform... Do they still have the consistency in accurately hitting their opponents with their 1-2 Punch that they are showing you during spar? Can they convert those Punches to a real damaging blows to their opponents in real fights... check this video out...Bullstag against a 4-year Old grey... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pdt-IGZvu0 cheers! |
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GOOD CUTTING ROOSTER YOU HAVE THERE MR. TOP SIGNATURE |
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isa sa binabasehan ko ay kung paano ipukol nang manok ang kanyang paa kung pumalo. Gusto ko ay straight cutter siya, deretso o deliberate kung magbigay nang paa o ini-istretch nang mabuti para maabot ang kalaban at saka magsyapol kung may kontak na. Pinaka-ayaw ko sa manok ang shadow boxer na humahataw na sa hangin o nagba-bicycle kahit wala pang kontak na parang machine gun pakinggan na nagraratrat. Ang mga ganitong manok ay short cutter at hindi madaling makapatay dahil mababaw magpatama nang tare, pero paborito nang karamihan sa spar dahil parang armalite. At kailangang malapit o dikit sila sa kalaban para makatama.
Ang straight cutter naman ay ba-on na ba-on kung bumigay at iba ang tunog nang palo nila. Hindi pagaspas sa hangin, parang tunog pag sinusuntok mo ang punching bag. Pag contact nila saka sila mag-shake o shuffle kaya isa hanggang tatlong palo lang minsan bagsak agad ang kalaban at karamihan ay nagiging multi time winner. At kahit na single stroker ang manok sa spar, pag nag-hang o sumabit ang tare nila, isi-shake nila iyan dahil reaction nila talaga iyan. Nang marami pang native na mga manok na sinasabong noon, lagi mong maririnig na ang kanilang manok ay walang syapol kung i-spar. Pero nang may tare na ay nagsyapol. Ang totoo lang ay instinct nang manok na i-shake ang paa kung sumabit ang tare, basta nasa posisyon lang siya at hindi napipilipit ang kanyang paa. Sa mga manok namin hindi na pambihirang mapapatay nila ang kalaban sa unang lipad pa lang. Maraming beses nang parang bukong nahuhulog ang kalaban nila sa unang salpok pa lang at kahit nasa ilalim pa sila dahil largo silang magbigay nang paa at mabilis rin sa lupa na syapolan. Sariling opinyon ko lang ito at hindi para sa lahat. |
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