[Kampakirit]

Doc TJ, How can we insure that our priced breeding stocks are free from major poultry diseases like NCD, Mareks, and Fowl Typhoid. In the US, most of the gamefowl breeders are claiming that their stiocks are NCD-Free. I understand, we should give vaccine tio them. In the Philippines, as far I know, we are still NOT a NCD-Free country. How would I know if my breeders or priced warriors are still protected thru the vaccine that we gave.

[tjtcokngacademy]

Each farm must have a complete vaccination program with proper record keeping of when the vaccines were given..... NCD booster shots should be given yearly to increase the titer of their antibodies.

When it comes to bacterial diseases like fowl typhoid and pullorum, these are best prevented through monthly bacterial flushing.

I would like to invite you to join the academy so that we can prepare a health program that is specifically designed for your gamefarm.

[tjtcokngacademy]

The only way to check the level of antibodies in your chickens system {for example....NCD} is to bring some birds (of different ages) to your local Animal Diagnostic Laboratory Center to check the existing titer (antibodies) in your flocks.

[Kampakirit]

Flushing? How many days do you give the 'Flushing Medication" to your birds? If we, for example, follow the rules of medication on treating birds do you mean to say I need to give 7 days medication in order to "Flush" the organism out? While it kills the harmful organism will it NOT also kill the helpful organism ; thus it counteract or cause an imbalance on the equilibrium between the disease-causing and the helpful bacteria? How can you equate this idea of flushing with the use of PROBIOTICS in health management of the flock?

[tjtcokngacademy]

Bacterial Flushing is only done once and repeated monthly as a preventive program.

If an antibiotic is administered for 7 consecutive days, that is called an Antibiotic Therapy and not Flushing.

[dodong del cruz]

if dogs have 8 in 1 vaccine, bakit wala ang mga manok? ilang klase ba lahat ng vaccine? what vaccine is the most important here in the Philippines considering that migratory birds from china begin to arrive at this time of the season?

[sogod_rh]

Doc Teddy,
What is used to do the monthly flushing and who has it??? TY Sogod

[Kampakirit]

Doc, I think you didn't get what we were asking. WHAT DOES FLUSHING ACCOMPLISH IF ONLY DONE FOR ONE DAY? IS IT A "WONDER DRUG OR WONDER PROCEDURE" THAT A SINGLE FLUSHING PROCEDURE CAN CLEANSED THE BODY OF HARMFUL ORGANISM? IF MY MEMMORY SERVED ME RIGHT THIS PROCEDURE WAS COPIED FROM THE U.S. BREEDERS/COCKERS OF OLD AGE AND AT THAT TIME THE USE OF THE ANTIBIOTICS WERE SEEMS TO DO a "WONDER". BUT TODAY WITH THE ADVANCE IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY WHEREIN YOU CAN READ ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW THROUGH THE NET THIS IDEA IS DEVOID OF SCIENTIFIC FACTS.

[tjtcokngacademy]

Let me answer your point on this matter in a different angle my friend......The main essence of bacterial flushing in your medication program is to flush any build-up of bacteria & microbes in their system.
Therefore; it is only done...TO PREVENT & NOT to TREAT.


When it comes to the problem that it may cause drug resistance??? Experience have taught me to use different kinds of antibiotics in your monthly medication program to prevent such resistance.

Remember that prolonged use of antibiotics can also trigger these factors.
Like in the case of a breeder friend of mine?? Adhering on his belief because of too much research, he ended up having all his broodstocks positive (+) for Pullorum.


The only problem with monthly bacterial flushing is; you flush-out>>> both the harmful and useful bacteria..needed to maintain a good intestinal microflora.

I always recommend my Academy graduates to give lactobacilli supplements to enhance good & useful bacteria back>>>> into their system.

Kampakirit, thank you for sharing.

I would like to end this discussion with a famous quote that brings us down to the basics: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure....and that's what bacterial flushing is all about!

[tjtcokngacademy]

Originally Posted by dodong del cruz

if dogs have 8 in 1 vaccine, bakit wala ang mga manok? ilang klase ba lahat ng vaccine? what vaccine is the most important here in the Philippines considering that migratory birds from china begin to arrive at this time of the season?

You can ask Arnel Anonuevo of KAAGPAS (09178338621) about polyvalent vaccines that you want to administer. He can give you assistance because he sells the latest vaccines in the market.


Regarding migratory birds, this question is very timely, please watch Hataw Pinoy this Sunday, September 23 10AM IBC 13 because this will be discussed by Dr. Ed Lapus, the head of the Animal Diagnostic Laboratory in Pampanga.

[redm]

very educating,more power to you doc Teddy!!!!!

[dodong del cruz]

thank you very much, doc.

[dodong del cruz]

Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy

You can ask Arnel Anonuevo of KAAGPAS (09178338621) about polyvalent vaccines that you want to administer. He can give you assistance because he sells the latest vaccines in the market.


Regarding migratory birds, this question is very timely, please watch Hataw Pinoy this Sunday, September 23 10AM IBC 13 because this will be discussed by Dr. Ed Lapus, the head of the Animal Diagnostic Laboratory in Pampanga.

DOC, I WATCHED THE SHOW. NOTHING WAS ANSWERED. But will wait still.

maraming salamat po. although i believe there is no such thing as a "free lunch"...

... in every rule there is an exception...

hoping. tnx

[tjtcokngacademy]

It was made into two parts (to be continued next sunday again) according to Direk Edbu....but we were able to talk to the designated team that would monitor the arrival of the migratory birds in Candaba, Pampanga next month to be on watch against the spread of BIRD FLU.

What is shown in Hataw Pinoy is beyond my control, and you know what i mean because i am just a segment host.

[Kampakirit]

How many component is that POLYVALENT VACCINE is? The best thing to do is to use the TRI-VALENT VACCINE. Increasing the number of vaccine intended for a single use must do so for booster immunization only. The use of "Many" vaccine component in a live or attenuated form may cause the spread of the organism in areas considered as "Virgin"; or in places where the disease had not been proven to exist. This will be counterproductive to the farm. A thorough understanding of BioSecurity will help.

On the area of BIRD FLU monitoring, there is not much to do but to identify and observing the areas where "exotic" birds primarily of the waterfowl family used to rest during the migratory phase when this birds escape from the cold temperature in the northern hemisphere to the tropical areas. Capturing some of them can helps the authorities to take sample material for Laboratory examination whether this/these migratory birds harbor the Bird Flu virus or not.

[sgf]

thanks.....mga Sirs.....

please keep goin........................

doctor teddy

if have 300 heads in may farm and i use bacterial flushing every month .do you think im not going to bank crapt? you know how expensive the bacterial flushing is.

you dont have any idea to prevent disease free instead bacterial flushing every month.

[Kampakirit]

Just my opinion>...NO..! as long as you own a Pharmaceutical company. It's peanut..!

[tjtcokngacademy]

I'm beginning to like this thread because it gives me the thinking?? of how i can come up with a medication program that would be "less expensive but cost effective".
By following a systematic disease preventive practices like:
Providing the best quality feed and clean water they can consume.
Applying judicious and timely medications and vaccines.
Following Bio-security rules: Strict hygiene and sanitation measures including monthly disinfection.
Providing a stress-free environment....the breeder can control the possibility of a flock becoming infected as well as the severity and outcome of an infection.


Good disease prevention practices is best explained as a chain that is only as strong as it's weakest link. Most medication programs can be discredited by failure to carry out one or two related ones that are either overlooked or not considered essential.
While it may not always be possible to use all the practices, the more that are followed, the greater the chances of avoiding disease outbreak.

[extremes_20s]

salamat, salamat doc teddy!!!

keep them coming.......

[tjtcokngacademy]

An interesting topic like these...deserves to be posted in the first page.

[nensky]

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[mechael]

doc is right this thread would be in front page very interesting topic...

[airwhen john]

yes doc this topic must be in the front page so other can seeeeeeeeee......