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Old August 2nd, 2007, 11:52 AM   #1
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Canker

Any suggestion to cure Canker in the throat, One of my broodcock acquired canker and already operated twice by a VET and was already given anibiotic and canker pills. But now the canker recurs and growing again. any info thanks.....
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 12:03 PM   #2
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Re: Canker

the only solution if that happens
is to use kutsilyu-mycin
Jk only sir. dont waste money and time.
if the problem occur again.. just simply
cull.....
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Old August 3rd, 2007, 09:38 AM   #3
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Re: Canker

Hope you can post the picture of the rooster with CANKER (Close up shot of the upper tract near the beak). I need to see if it affects the upper or lower part before i can give you my recommendation.

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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:50 AM   #4
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Canker, is one of the most common problem in Chicken. It is most common in Pigeon. However, I am quiet surprised that when a white-like plaque appear on the mouth area of chicken OUR veterinarians in the PI immediately concur that it is Canker or Trichomoniasis. How about if it is NOT. To prove that the plaque is canker the first action of the person who look at it is to find the evidence which is the causative agent. It does NOT require a sophisticated instrument/apparatus to identify the organism.

A word of advice..!
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Old August 14th, 2007, 03:52 PM   #5
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Re: Canker

Thanks for your advised sadly to say My Asil broodcock already died after the 3rd operation the canker already block the air ways that choked my broodcock, Any way is their any prevention that can be done ? What I've read in this forum that copper sulfate in their drinking water prevent canker but I cannot find in poultry supply who sell this product and also looking for Texas Blue Stone who has copper sulfate product of tiny Menesses. Any info will greatly helps. Thanks again
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Old September 12th, 2007, 12:51 PM   #6
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Re: Canker

Better late than never....

The advice I got from a friend vet was to clean the waterer properly. Use Chlorox and scrub the waterer so that organism will be dislodged from the container. Rinsed with clean water after 15 minutes. Do this once a week and YOU'LL SEE THE WONDER OF IT.
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Old September 20th, 2007, 09:23 AM   #7
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Re: Canker

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Canker, is one of the most common problem in Chicken. It is most common in Pigeon. However, I am quiet surprised that when a white-like plaque appear on the mouth area of chicken OUR veterinarians in the PI immediately concur that it is Canker or Trichomoniasis. How about if it is NOT. To prove that the plaque is canker the first action of the person who look at it is to find the evidence which is the causative agent. It does NOT require a sophisticated instrument/apparatus to identify the organism.

A word of advice..!

Doc how do you treat the Canker around the mouth (beak)?
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Old September 21st, 2007, 09:20 AM   #8
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sorry i posted in tagalog
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Old September 21st, 2007, 10:08 AM   #9
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Re: Canker

Dynamite asil
It's really hard to recommend a medication especially if there was no confirmatory diagnosis on the sick bird. Sometimes, Wet Pox is mistaken for Canker and that is the reason why i requested a close-up picture of the lesions inside your birds beak.
At any rate, Wet Pox is a viral disease and it can kill your rooster in just a matter of days.
It can also be mistaken as candidiasis.
Presuming it was Canker, lesions appear initially as small, circumscribed caseous areas on the surface of the oral mucosa (beak region).
It is caused by a protozoan Trichomonas gallinae and this condition affects the upper digestive tract. Clinical signs includes darkened heads, shrunken sinuses, ruffled feathers and a peculiar stance with the head and neck arched and some what drawn back, resulting in the appearance of a sunken chest.

Clean waterers are important and avoid feeding rough and sharp grains that can cause abrasion in their mucosa.

Cleaning the mouth (beak) part with Bactidol Oral Antiseptic (using a forcep with cotton) can stop the growth of the organism but this should be done religiously for two weeks....after each feeding to clean the tract of any dirt.

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Old September 23rd, 2007, 12:42 PM   #10
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Re: Canker

CROOKED TOE,

The basic idea I learned from experience is to break the cycle of the causative agent and...preventing from recurrence. How to do this is simple. Clean the waterer the way you clean your glass for drinking. Meaning clean both from inside and outside the water container and rinse it with clean water. Then dry. If there's a bastard canker on you farm I would suggest to soaked all your feeding and water container on water/chlorox solution (10:1) and let stand for 30 minutes. Do not expose the solution under the sun as it will affects its effectivenes. Then, make it a point to clean once a week for the next 3 months so that any carrier bird that may still harbor the organism would not spread it. Then after, you can program with just clean water and soap and a quarterly soaking on water/chlorox solution. [For me I am doing it on monthly basis]. As to the sick bird, my experience with it was the use of Metronidazole. There other drugs belonging to this family that you can utilised to prevent the development of resistance strain on YOUR FARM. To the practicing vet., the laboratory procedure here is simple. Just use a cotton buds soaked in normal saline and scraped a few amount of saliva from the mouth of the affected cock, transfer it to the glass slide and examine it thru the microscope. YOu can see the bastard Tricho dancing the limborack on your mounted slide. The white plague is not a good sample to examine, better to take saliva.

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Old September 23rd, 2007, 10:48 PM   #11
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Thank you, Kampakirit, for your sound advice!
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Old September 27th, 2007, 06:37 AM   #12
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DOC TJT....My Pleasure.!
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