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Old July 1st, 2007, 08:02 PM   #1
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Good p.m. po uli Doc TJT, may nakita po akong bulate sa ipot ng manok ko
while limbering before the fight, tanong ko lang po kung good or bad sign ito?

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Old July 1st, 2007, 09:31 PM   #2
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Ang sabi mo ay nakita mo ang bulate, habang nag-lilimber ka bago siya napalaban? Nanalo ba? o Natalo?
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Old July 5th, 2007, 09:36 PM   #3
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Nanalo po naman awa ng Diyos!
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Old July 6th, 2007, 08:13 AM   #4
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These are things that you observe when a rooster is gut empty especially if he was not properly dewormed. Presence of internal parasite is indeed a bad sign and should be eliminated. Buti na lang at nanalo ka. Minsan pag empty na sila at wala nang mapiga ang bituka...bulate na ang inilalabas nila kaya siguraduhin na magpurga sa start ng 21 day keep at kung marami kang nakitang lumabas na bulate...dapat ay mag-follow up deworming after 10 days.

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Old July 6th, 2007, 08:16 AM   #5
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hahahahaahhahahahahaha......
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Old July 7th, 2007, 01:05 AM   #6
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Thanks again Doc, sana maka-attend rin ako sa class mo in the near future!
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Doc,


Regarding sa bulate lumalabas before ilaban, may nakapagsabi sa akin na maganda ito. Dahil umiinit ang katawan ng manok pag maganda ang condition. Lumalabas daw ang bulate dahil naghahanap ng malamig na lugar. tama po ba ito?
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These are things that you observe when a rooster is gut empty especially if he was not properly dewormed. Presence of internal parasite is indeed a bad sign and should be eliminated. Buti na lang at nanalo ka. Minsan pag empty na sila at wala nang mapiga ang bituka...bulate na ang inilalabas nila kaya siguraduhin na magpurga sa start ng 21 day keep at kung marami kang nakitang lumabas na bulate...dapat ay mag-follow up deworming after 10 days.

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These are things that you observe when a rooster is gut empty especially if he was not properly dewormed. Presence of internal parasite is indeed a bad sign and should be eliminated. Buti na lang at nanalo ka. Minsan pag empty na sila at wala nang mapiga ang bituka...bulate na ang inilalabas nila kaya siguraduhin na magpurga sa start ng 21 day keep at kung marami kang nakitang lumabas na bulate...dapat ay mag-follow up deworming after 10 days.


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Old August 15th, 2007, 08:43 PM   #10
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mabuti na lang at nanalo pa, siguro mas madami yung bulate ng kalaban hehe.
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Old August 16th, 2007, 05:22 PM   #11
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oo nga bwenas mo pre at nanalo pa. bwenas ang bulate na yun at nakashare pa sa mga vitamins na binibigay mo sa manok.
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Old August 16th, 2007, 05:57 PM   #12
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SHARE KO LANG MY 20th DAY KEEPING/LIMBERING -AND ITS REALY WORK R ME

1.LIMBER-PAGLAGAY NG MANOK SA SCRATCH PEN
2.limber at 6am
3.weigth them (timbangin mo sila) in the morning and afternoon before submitted weigths on the figth day during the derby.
4.feeding at 7am in the morning
5.sprinkles the surroundings with water and make them rest the whole day.
6.put the chickens stall (kulungan) put dark curtains wet these
(basahin ang kurina in every 3hours
7this would be the black out days.put chickens in kulungan
8.10 to 4pm kulungan(black)
9.limber every 3 hours (1pm- monitor d droping and moisture ) at (4pm same)

10.during limber 1pm—observing their droppings and condition ng manok (dapat alert at relax ang manok ditto at this time) and massage their crop(lalagyan ng pagkain sa dibdib) to make them burp-(maglabas ang hangin(tug-ab) and release gas which gas which is an indication that it is empty only 5 minutes only,just to passing stool (para makatae lang) at observation mo kung basa o dry.

11.during limber 4pm—observing their droppings and condition ng manok (dapat alert at relax na ang manok ditto at this time )and massage their crop(lalagyan ng pagkain sa dibdib) to make them burp-(maglabas ang hangin(tug-ab) and release gas which gas which is an indication that it is empty.
12.feeding time=4pm (feeds only 1 ½ kutsara)
13.after feeding let them drinks the only 3 to 5 only
13.wash their face/vent-sa may puwet/shank-legs/paa
14.let them sleep in the tee-pee
15.kung uulan ilagay mo sa (kulungan)

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Old August 16th, 2007, 06:26 PM   #13
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Doc,


Regarding sa bulate lumalabas before ilaban, may nakapagsabi sa akin na maganda ito. Dahil umiinit ang katawan ng manok pag maganda ang condition. Lumalabas daw ang bulate dahil naghahanap ng malamig na lugar. tama po ba ito?

Doc,

Can you give some pointers po sa tanong na ito kasi may nakapagsabi na rin po sa akin ng ganito na pag ganito daw eh nasa peak ng conditioning sila.

tama po ba yon?
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 04:13 AM   #14
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kailangan ba na brown at me puti ung dumi ng manok pag nasa peak na siya ng pointing
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Old March 26th, 2009, 10:31 PM   #15
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Doc,


Regarding sa bulate lumalabas before ilaban, may nakapagsabi sa akin na maganda ito. Dahil umiinit ang katawan ng manok pag maganda ang condition. Lumalabas daw ang bulate dahil naghahanap ng malamig na lugar. tama po ba ito?

bad nga eh...
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Old March 27th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #16
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SHARE KO LANG MY 20th DAY KEEPING/LIMBERING -AND ITS REALY WORK R ME

1.LIMBER-PAGLAGAY NG MANOK SA SCRATCH PEN
2.limber at 6am
3.weigth them (timbangin mo sila) in the morning and afternoon before submitted weigths on the figth day during the derby.
4.feeding at 7am in the morning
5.sprinkles the surroundings with water and make them rest the whole day.
6.put the chickens stall (kulungan) put dark curtains wet these
(basahin ang kurina in every 3hours
7this would be the black out days.put chickens in kulungan
8.10 to 4pm kulungan(black)
9.limber every 3 hours (1pm- monitor d droping and moisture ) at (4pm same)

10.during limber 1pm—observing their droppings and condition ng manok (dapat alert at relax ang manok ditto at this time) and massage their crop(lalagyan ng pagkain sa dibdib) to make them burp-(maglabas ang hangin(tug-ab) and release gas which gas which is an indication that it is empty only 5 minutes only,just to passing stool (para makatae lang) at observation mo kung basa o dry.

11.during limber 4pm—observing their droppings and condition ng manok (dapat alert at relax na ang manok ditto at this time )and massage their crop(lalagyan ng pagkain sa dibdib) to make them burp-(maglabas ang hangin(tug-ab) and release gas which gas which is an indication that it is empty.
12.feeding time=4pm (feeds only 1 ½ kutsara)
13.after feeding let them drinks the only 3 to 5 only
13.wash their face/vent-sa may puwet/shank-legs/paa
14.let them sleep in the tee-pee
15.kung uulan ilagay mo sa (kulungan)

thanks sir sunblade68 sa TIPS mo...

doc, sa 21-day keep - kelan magsstart ang carbo loading at ano ung mga mixture with right ratio? medu hindi po namin perfect to ng pinsan ko. d po namin ginagawa ang carbo loading. kung ano ung pinapakain namin sa regular feeding, ganun gang sa araw ng laban. sana ma-share nyo po ung mga tips nyo para naman po maka entry kami sa derby. maraming salamat po
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Old March 27th, 2009, 01:56 PM   #17
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Sir Kung Derby Dapat Alam Mo Kung Kailang Ang Figth Ng Manok Mo Kung Sa Ulutan Hanggan Oras,,,,,, Magkukuha Mo Ang Tamang Point Ng Manok Mo Kung Tama Ang Oras Ng Pag Limber Ng Manok Sa Araw Ng Laban,

Una Sa Lahat Dapat Alam Mo Ang Metabolism Ng Manok Mo Ibig Sabihin Yong Panunaw Ng Kanyang Pagkain . Kung Mahina Kailangan Alam Mo Kung Among Oras Siya I Limber Para Makuha Mo Yong First Moistural Droppings Kung Mabagal Naman Metabolism Ng Manok Kaialngan Mo Na Rin Gumamit ,,,,,, Pra Mapalabas Niya Agad Ang Series Ng Intestinal Dropping UnTIL Moistural Dropping............... den pre ur pointing feeds kung mag extend ang oras ng laban ....Salamat

dont ever change ur feeding until d last figth even d pointing to avoid intestinal discomport.....

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Old April 2nd, 2009, 06:49 PM   #18
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Good p.m. po uli Doc TJT, may nakita po akong bulate sa ipot ng manok ko
while limbering before the fight, tanong ko lang po kung good or bad sign ito?

Thanks and good luck!

eto ang nangyari din sa amin lastime...

actually pang last fight namin xa at may lumabas na bulate
kaya worry talaga ako nagtaka....nag deworming naman kami sa pagstart ng conditioning namin pero nung naglimber time eh lumabas nga at tape worm pah....at napakarami..

kaya maliit nalang pusta namin sa kanya nagdadalawang isip kasi ang kapatid ko sa pagpusta ng malaki sa kanya since panalo lahat ung mga nauna namin na laban kahit alam namin na xa ang pinakamagaling sa lahat at talgang alam kong malaki ang tsansa na mananalo xa....malaki ang tiwala ko sa nokis na un kaso nga may bulate na lumabas...buti nlang nanalo xa at unscatched pah...hehehehhe akala ko ako lang nkakaranas nito....kakahiya talga may nkakakita pa naman...
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Na experienced ko na rin ito twice at nanalo naman pareho.
Ewan ko kung nagkataon lang ito. Pero ang performanced ng manok super!
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 10:26 PM   #20
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Takoyaki,
Pareho tayo ng na experience habang nag limber ako ng fight day, kaya pala sunud-sunod droppings ng manok k may bulate pala, kaya dali dali k inalis with the use of tissue paper medyo kadiri, pero end up na win ang manok k, kaya baka tam yong sinabi nila na masyado mainit ang katawan ng manok at humahanap ng malamig......

Thnks po sa lahat ng info, i learn from it.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 08:51 PM   #21
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ano nga kaya ang dahilan bakit sa fight day ay meron lumalabas na bulati kahit ngdeworm ng 21 day keep?kami din kasi nakaranas na ng ganito,pero nanalo din.
>>point na point ang kilos ng manok sa loob ng rueda,d sya ngaksaya ng oras at madali lng nya napatay ang kalaban nya.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 11:06 PM   #22
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Takoyaki,
Pareho tayo ng na experience habang nag limber ako ng fight day, kaya pala sunud-sunod droppings ng manok k may bulate pala, kaya dali dali k inalis with the use of tissue paper medyo kadiri, pero end up na win ang manok k, kaya baka tam yong sinabi nila na masyado mainit ang katawan ng manok at humahanap ng malamig......

Thnks po sa lahat ng info, i learn from it.

Sir Greatwall & Scotie, thanks po sa reply on this thread...kala ko ako lang ang naka-experience nito.

Good luck & more power!!
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Old April 9th, 2009, 10:38 AM   #23
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kasama po ba ng cecal yung bulate?? na-experience ko na din po yan at bigla ko hinugot sa pwet nya baka makita ng financier ko baka mawalan ng gana sa mga manok namin. nanalo naman.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 09:07 PM   #24
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eto ang nangyari din sa amin lastime...

actually pang last fight namin xa at may lumabas na bulate
kaya worry talaga ako nagtaka....nag deworming naman kami sa pagstart ng conditioning namin pero nung naglimber time eh lumabas nga at tape worm pah....at napakarami..

kaya maliit nalang pusta namin sa kanya nagdadalawang isip kasi ang kapatid ko sa pagpusta ng malaki sa kanya since panalo lahat ung mga nauna namin na laban kahit alam namin na xa ang pinakamagaling sa lahat at talgang alam kong malaki ang tsansa na mananalo xa....malaki ang tiwala ko sa nokis na un kaso nga may bulate na lumabas...buti nlang nanalo xa at unscatched pah...hehehehhe akala ko ako lang nkakaranas nito....kakahiya talga may nkakakita pa naman...

Ka Puroy: Na experienced ko na rin ito twice at nanalo naman pareho.
Ewan ko kung nagkataon lang ito. Pero ang performanced ng manok super!

Thanks po sa inyong mga inputs sa thread na ito Sir Blade spec & Ka Puroy..
Keep posting your experiences mga Bros...para kapulutan ng aral ng mga taong nagtatawa sa mga naging karanasan natin.
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Old May 24th, 2009, 10:33 PM   #25
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matanong ko lang po kung anong magandang deworming pills para sa manok??? sabi ni doc after 10 days of conditioning, purgahin ulit para siguradong malinis sa bulate ang panlaban natin...anong marerecommend nyo naman po na gamot?meron kc ung mga pamurga na matagal maka recover ang manok
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mga kasabong tulungan namn nio kmi kung ano mgnda pampurga
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matanong ko lang po kung anong magandang deworming pills para sa manok??? sabi ni doc after 10 days of conditioning, purgahin ulit para siguradong malinis sa bulate ang panlaban natin...anong marerecommend nyo naman po na gamot?meron kc ung mga pamurga na matagal maka recover ang manok

reybel22 : mga kasabong tulungan namn nio kmi kung ano mgnda pampurga

Sir Knox25 at Sir Reybel22, marami po mapagpipiliang mga product sa mga tindahan...may caplet at liquid form, ang ginagamit ko po eh caplet (wormal at hammer).
First session bago magsimula sa conditioning tapos mga 10 days before the fight.
Magkaiba ang gamit ko para hindi magkaroon ng resistance ang mga bulate sa gamot.
Sana po nasagot ko ang inyong mga tanong.
Good luck po sa mga darating nyong laban!!

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mga kasabong tulungan namn nio kmi kung ano mgnda pampurga

pinaka magandang pampurga tol ay yung bunga...
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These are things that you observe when a rooster is gut empty especially if he was not properly dewormed. Presence of internal parasite is indeed a bad sign and should be eliminated. Buti na lang at nanalo ka. Minsan pag empty na sila at wala nang mapiga ang bituka...bulate na ang inilalabas nila kaya siguraduhin na magpurga sa start ng 21 day keep at kung marami kang nakitang lumabas na bulate...dapat ay mag-follow up deworming after 10 days.
i salute u doc..
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SHARE KO LANG MY 20th DAY KEEPING/LIMBERING -AND ITS REALY WORK R ME

1.LIMBER-PAGLAGAY NG MANOK SA SCRATCH PEN
2.limber at 6am
3.weigth them (timbangin mo sila) in the morning and afternoon before submitted weigths on the figth day during the derby.
4.feeding at 7am in the morning
5.sprinkles the surroundings with water and make them rest the whole day.
6.put the chickens stall (kulungan) put dark curtains wet these
(basahin ang kurina in every 3hours
7this would be the black out days.put chickens in kulungan
8.10 to 4pm kulungan(black)
9.limber every 3 hours (1pm- monitor d droping and moisture ) at (4pm same)

10.during limber 1pm—observing their droppings and condition ng manok (dapat alert at relax ang manok ditto at this time) and massage their crop(lalagyan ng pagkain sa dibdib) to make them burp-(maglabas ang hangin(tug-ab) and release gas which gas which is an indication that it is empty only 5 minutes only,just to passing stool (para makatae lang) at observation mo kung basa o dry.

11.during limber 4pm—observing their droppings and condition ng manok (dapat alert at relax na ang manok ditto at this time )and massage their crop(lalagyan ng pagkain sa dibdib) to make them burp-(maglabas ang hangin(tug-ab) and release gas which gas which is an indication that it is empty.
12.feeding time=4pm (feeds only 1 ½ kutsara)
13.after feeding let them drinks the only 3 to 5 only
13.wash their face/vent-sa may puwet/shank-legs/paa
14.let them sleep in the tee-pee
15.kung uulan ilagay mo sa (kulungan)
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