[johhny]

HOW TO HARDEN STAG WHILE INCREASING GAMENESS??? im havaing a hardtime doing it, i want it natural i dont wanna use any drugs...please help...thnks

[AnakNiPepe]

introduce a pullet

[tjtcokngacademy]

Gamecocks are territorial birds and their chief aim in life is to extend their domain.
Stags are young marginalized males with no established territories yet, so they welcome fights at the slightest provocation to rise above the ranks and establish their own domain.
Knowing this, one must take note of the distance between hardening pens. The farther the distance between pens, the better.
While in the range, observe the stags who have established their supremacy and these are the first ones to be harvested. For the battered stag in the range, one way of eliminating this trauma is by placing the stag in a pen with an older hen (about 2 years old). This will definitely boost his machismo.
Dubbing plays an important role as their combs are their crown & glory. I suggest that you dub them after the 3rd sparring or until such time when they have exhibited confidence and skill when they spar.
The rotation method is also applied to the stags to avoid the "boredom syndrome" and to get the stags used to different environments. Their awareness of the different pens we rotate them in will make them feel secure and claim the area as their own. With this mentality ingrained in them, stags have more reason to fight with all their might come fight day in the pit.

[ARESFORTUN]

Perfect explanation!

[pix_picasso]

doc, why is it sometime after putting a stag in a hardening pen together with a hen for a few days, it sometimes becomes dunghill when we put them out of the pen...? is this a bloodline issue? this is just my experience although not all of them becomes dunghill.. minsan nangangarayom pa ang pulok....

[tobruk]

Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy

Gamecocks are territorial birds and their chief aim in life is to extend their domain.
Stags are young marginalized males with no established territories yet, so they welcome fights at the slightest provocation to rise above the ranks and establish their own domain.
Knowing this, one must take note of the distance between hardening pens. The farther the distance between pens, the better.
While in the range, observe the stags who have established their supremacy and these are the first ones to be harvested. For the battered stag in the range, one way of eliminating this trauma is by placing the stag in a pen with an older hen (about 2 years old). This will definitely boost his machismo.
Dubbing plays an important role as their combs are their crown & glory. I suggest that you dub them after the 3rd sparring or until such time when they have exhibited confidence and skill when they spar.
The rotation method is also applied to the stags to avoid the "boredom syndrome" and to get the stags used to different environments. Their awareness of the different pens we rotate them in will make them feel secure and claim the area as their own. With this mentality ingrained in them, stags have more reason to fight with all their might come fight day in the pit.

clear as a bell...................

good luck preng Johhny

[Sureball]

Originally Posted by ARESFORTUN

Perfect explanation!

ok

[PIT KNIGHTS]

i think gameness is in the blood..

[johhny]

yeah gameness is inherited from the hen daw....... thnx mga parekoy

[johhny]

Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy

Gamecocks are territorial birds and their chief aim in life is to extend their domain.
Stags are young marginalized males with no established territories yet, so they welcome fights at the slightest provocation to rise above the ranks and establish their own domain.
Knowing this, one must take note of the distance between hardening pens. The farther the distance between pens, the better.
While in the range, observe the stags who have established their supremacy and these are the first ones to be harvested. For the battered stag in the range, one way of eliminating this trauma is by placing the stag in a pen with an older hen (about 2 years old). This will definitely boost his machismo.
Dubbing plays an important role as their combs are their crown & glory. I suggest that you dub them after the 3rd sparring or until such time when they have exhibited confidence and skill when they spar.
The rotation method is also applied to the stags to avoid the "boredom syndrome" and to get the stags used to different environments. Their awareness of the different pens we rotate them in will make them feel secure and claim the area as their own. With this mentality ingrained in them, stags have more reason to fight with all their might come fight day in the pit.

WOWEEEE!!!! thank you sir....

[Hawakamay]

Thanks for the info Doc ted. more power...

[bumble foot]

Originally Posted by pix_picasso

doc, why is it sometime after putting a stag in a hardening pen together with a hen for a few days, it sometimes becomes dunghill when we put them out of the pen...? is this a bloodline issue? this is just my experience although not all of them becomes dunghill.. minsan nangangarayom pa ang pulok....

[bumble foot]

Originally Posted by pix_picasso

doc, why is it sometime after putting a stag in a hardening pen together with a hen for a few days, it sometimes becomes dunghill when we put them out of the pen...? is this a bloodline issue? this is just my experience although not all of them becomes dunghill.. minsan nangangarayom pa ang pulok....

Tame your stg first.

[bumble foot]

Tame your stag first.

[tjtcokngacademy]

Nutrition plays an important role in their development. Stags should be fed more (50 grams) compared to cocks as their metabolism is much faster.
The stags should possess the following physical appearance. These are: a healthy comb which indicates that their testicles are fully developed, shiny feathers, fully developed chest (Light weight chickens should be left in the range to give them more time to develop.), good appetite and lastly it should have the stance of an aggressive rooster who is ready for battle.
Taking all these into consideration, the stags are ready to be placed in a hardening pen. This should be done on the 5th and 6th month of their life. The main point for putting them into the hardening pen is for them to get use to the string that is placed on their right leg prior to cording. More cockers associate the hardening phase with the stags coming of age or maturity. I simply regard it as a preparatory phase to cording. The hardening stage may last from 3 days to 3 weeks depending on the stag’s response to handling. Always handle the stags gently so that they will know that you are not a threat to their macho instinct. Being in the hardening pen, we introduce the concept of feeding them from a clay pot in the morning and also in the afternoon. Once they are used to it then it would be easier for them to adjust once they are corded.

[E.J]

Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy

Nutrition plays an important role in their development. Stags should be fed more (50 grams) compared to cocks as their metabolism is much faster.
The stags should possess the following physical appearance. These are: a healthy comb which indicates that their testicles are fully developed, shiny feathers, fully developed chest (Light weight chickens should be left in the range to give them more time to develop.), good appetite and lastly it should have the stance of an aggressive rooster who is ready for battle.
Taking all these into consideration, the stags are ready to be placed in a hardening pen. This should be done on the 5th and 6th month of their life. The main point for putting them into the hardening pen is for them to get use to the string that is placed on their right leg prior to cording. More cockers associate the hardening phase with the stags coming of age or maturity. I simply regard it as a preparatory phase to cording. The hardening stage may last from 3 days to 3 weeks depending on the stag’s response to handling. Always handle the stags gently so that they will know that you are not a threat to their macho instinct. Being in the hardening pen, we introduce the concept of feeding them from a clay pot in the morning and also in the afternoon. Once they are used to it then it would be easier for them to adjust once they are corded.

Thank you DOCTOR

[ianwalto]

Thanks Again Doc!! And Good Morning!!!!!!!

[manuel_cab]

thanks for the info..doc

[redm]

perfect explanation doc....thanks!!! .

[nielyams]

Perfecto!!! Thanks a

[nielyams]

Perfecto!!! Thanks a lot Doc!

[nielyams]

Perfecto!!! thanks a lot Doc!

[tjtcokngacademy]

Always handle the stags gently so that they will know that you are not a threat to them.Here are a few tips on how to train and condition your stags for the derby. Selection is crucial. The birds I select are those that would open their hackle to the fullest. Also, when you tail them (kahig) they would go straight to the opponent with a full hackle. This indicates that they are well focused. They should spar well and hit without hesitation. Training would be lighter compared to cocks. Scratching time is done only for 5 minutes. Rotation method also applies to the stags. Salida plays an important role in teaching the stags on how to hit the opponent on air.

[renac001]

[quote=tjtcokngacademy]Nutrition plays an important role in their development. Stags should be fed more (50 grams) compared to cocks as their metabolism is much faster.
The stags should possess the following physical appearance. These are: a healthy comb which indicates that their testicles are fully developed, shiny feathers, fully developed chest (Light weight chickens should be left in the range to give them more time to develop.), good appetite and lastly it should have the stance of an aggressive rooster who is ready for battle.
Taking all these into consideration, the stags are ready to be placed in a hardening pen. This should be done on the 5th and 6th month of their life. The main point for putting them into the hardening pen is for them to get use to the string that is placed on their right leg prior to cording. More cockers associate the hardening phase with the stags coming of age or maturity. I simply regard it as a preparatory phase to cording. The hardening stage may last from 3 days to 3 weeks depending on the stag’s response to handling. Always handle the stags gently so that they will know that you are not a threat to their macho instinct. Being in the hardening pen, we introduce the concept of feeding them from a clay pot in the morning and also in the afternoon. Once they are used to it then it would be easier for them to adjust once they are corded.[/quote

Thanks Doc.for the good info...

[kenried]

Boss, can i ask a feeding program, vitamins, and maintenance feeds to be used at the age 3 months old to up........

thnx

[tjtcokngacademy]

kenried
Your question is not in accordance to the title of this thread.

[tjtcokngacademy]

Once the stags are tamed, we familiarize our stag from being corded in a teepee. One of the most common problem encountered by newly corded stags are leg injuries brought about by some stags who pull on their tie cord so much that they get torn ligaments in their legs or hips resulting to spraddled legs... some injure their spurs and some get hung on the roost, especially at roosting time.
It would be best to tie him on the right leg at first, in order to protect his left leg. An attentive caretaker is what you’ll need during these critical days of adjustment of being corded in their teepee. After a while, the stags will get the idea. But there are other pressing matters which are real problems on the cord and these are best discussed in the academy.

Our guest of honor for this March is Richard Lainier
TJT Cocking Academy's Special Guest Speaker
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t_rlainier.jpg
Mr. Richard Lainier is the academy's special guest speaker on how to harden stags the proper way.
__________________
TJT Cocking Academy:
Where Cocking Knowledge is an Advantage

[sanamaswerte]

Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy

Gamecocks are territorial birds and their chief aim in life is to extend their domain.
Stags are young marginalized males with no established territories yet, so they welcome fights at the slightest provocation to rise above the ranks and establish their own domain.
Knowing this, one must take note of the distance between hardening pens. The farther the distance between pens, the better.
While in the range, observe the stags who have established their supremacy and these are the first ones to be harvested. For the battered stag in the range, one way of eliminating this trauma is by placing the stag in a pen with an older hen (about 2 years old). This will definitely boost his machismo.
Dubbing plays an important role as their combs are their crown & glory. I suggest that you dub them after the 3rd sparring or until such time when they have exhibited confidence and skill when they spar.
The rotation method is also applied to the stags to avoid the "boredom syndrome" and to get the stags used to different environments. Their awareness of the different pens we rotate them in will make them feel secure and claim the area as their own. With this mentality ingrained in them, stags have more reason to fight with all their might come fight day in the pit.

Good morning Doc!

With due respect, i'm asking a question with regard to this topic quote "While in the range, observe the stags who have established their supremacy and these are the first ones to be harvested."
Last Sunday I watched tukaan, in the segment of Sir Biboy Enriquez regarding harvesting of stags, he said that the king of the domain or pinaka astig, should be left and the second, third and fourth in line should be harvested first.
Doc i'm quite confused with this matter. help.

thank you very much.

[mhike75]

Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy

Once the stags are tamed, we familiarize our stag from being corded in a teepee. One of the most common problem encountered by newly corded stags are leg injuries brought about by some stags who pull on their tie cord so much that they get torn ligaments in their legs or hips resulting to spraddled legs... some injure their spurs and some get hung on the roost, especially at roosting time.
It would be best to tie him on the right leg at first, in order to protect his left leg. An attentive caretaker is what you’ll need during these critical days of adjustment of being corded in their teepee. After a while, the stags will get the idea. But there are other pressing matters which are real problems on the cord and these are best discussed in the academy.

Our guest of honor for this March is Richard Lainier
TJT Cocking Academy's Special Guest Speaker
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t_rlainier.jpg
Mr. Richard Lainier is the academy's special guest speaker on how to harden stags the proper way.
__________________
TJT Cocking Academy:
Where Cocking Knowledge is an Advantage

DOC, WHAT IS THE IDEAL SIZE FOR HARDENING PENS? THANKS IN ADVANCE

[sugwan8]

maraming salamat doc