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Old June 20th, 2007, 10:41 AM   #1
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Hello!

Bagito here... tanong ko lang po, ano ano po bang ang mga klase ng bloodlines at mga chracteristics nila in terms of fighting style and physical appearance?

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Old June 20th, 2007, 12:16 PM   #2
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doc tjt,

Maraming salamat at lagi kyo nandyan at lagi kp kyo nakikita sa tv .
sana po doc mabigyan nyo kami ng mga libro tungkol sa mga lahi or bloodlines
ng mga manok or kung san kami pwede bumili nito ?? Sa mga bloodlones po ng
mga manok pwede po ng mga fighting styles nila par may idea kami para sa
breeding??? May katanuan ako dahil may manok po ako na ang lahi at galing
ng U.S. ang tawg nila ay CLIPPER ????
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Old November 25th, 2008, 02:35 AM   #3
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doc tjt,

Maraming salamat at lagi kyo nandyan at lagi kp kyo nakikita sa tv .
sana po doc mabigyan nyo kami ng mga libro tungkol sa mga lahi or bloodlines
ng mga manok or kung san kami pwede bumili nito ?? Sa mga bloodlones po ng
mga manok pwede po ng mga fighting styles nila par may idea kami para sa
breeding??? May katanuan ako dahil may manok po ako na ang lahi at galing

ng U.S. ang tawg nila ay CLIPPER ????
TAAS KO LANG PARA SA MAKIKIG NA HATCH YATA......
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Old November 25th, 2008, 08:46 AM   #4
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up natin para makita ng mga experto dito
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Old November 25th, 2008, 09:39 AM   #5
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sa dami ng bloodlines ngayon mahirap ata pinapagawa nyo kay doc ted.. hehe
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Mahigit isang taon na ang thread na ito at wala pa ring sagot si doc...
nahirapan yata ng husto...hehehe
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ito ay ayun lng sa mga nababasa ko at baguhan lng din naman ako.


hatch - speed,power, multi shuffler, very game

kelso - angat sarado, multi shuffler

lemon - ito daw yun matatalinong manok na kahit na sa ilalim eh nakakapagpapasok ng tama.

roundhead - meron ako nito. angat sarado, multi shuffler, speedy


butcher - accurate hitter
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Old November 27th, 2008, 01:29 PM   #8
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dagdagan pa natin!
asil or asian gamefowl-head hitter/off beat fighting style/pea comb
clarets-hard hitter/deadly gameness/pearly white legs,straight comb
dami na kasing blood ngayon,dagdagan nyo pa...
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Old November 28th, 2008, 11:16 AM   #9
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Up lang po natin baka may mag mag dagdag pa ng nalalaman nila sa mga lahi ng manok>>>>>>>
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Old December 4th, 2008, 10:46 AM   #10
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:05 PM   #11
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nice topic...
bump ko lang...
baka may madagdag pa...
salamat po sa mga ngpost...
malaking tulong sa pamimili po namin 'to...
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Old December 9th, 2008, 07:18 PM   #12
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ang asil po ba ay 100 percent na peacomb??????


>>>>>> may your winning ways continue
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Old December 9th, 2008, 08:05 PM   #13
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up ko din para sa aditional inputs..
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Old December 9th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #14
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mga tsong, tingin ko nakakalito na nga kung ano ba talaga mga bloodlines ngayun meron.. basicallly kasi alam ko puro mga crosses a pinuro mga original bloodlines, meaning nung unang panahon ng mga breeder na kanoto e wala pa talagang purong bloodlines,,, yung iba nga ata e hindi nila alam kung ano bloodline yung mga nokis nila e. he he he he......opinion lang po,, na refine lang po yan mga bloodlines na yan nung nauso na ang pure pure na yan, they say to perpetuate a certain bloodline...
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Old December 10th, 2008, 08:25 AM   #15
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hi-action mclean- hatch designed for long knife.. mataas mag-break, game, side steps, good station at superb ang cutting. whats important is, this line proved its worth in the pit

circle L hi-action finishing his molt

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Old December 21st, 2008, 04:23 AM   #16
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up ko lang mga kasabong para malaman naman ng iba
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Black Bonanza and black Hulsey medium breaker but they are 1minute shufflers.bueno talagang nakakalito na talaga sa daming lumalabas na linyada.
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white leghorn.....pang NOCHE BUENA, masarap aroz caldo!MERRY CHRISTMAS AND PROSPEROUS 2009!
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makiki-up na rin po bakasakaling may maidagdag pa...sila.
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MANOK IHALAS- mataas ang lipad at di na babalik
BALULANG-ang galing sa ilag at di talaga patama..pag tinamaan..uuwi sa bahay at babalik bukas

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mga kakmeyt baguhan lang din at share k lang konting kaalaman

mclean hatch - speed,power,multi-shuffler and very game

sweater - angat sarado , pag break nila follow-up agad s ibaba

roundhead - angat sarado , mabilis maglaro , multi - shuffler

butcher - accurate cutter and hitter
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Game Fowl Bloodlines

With the lifting of importation restrictions, practically all bloodlines developed in the United States of America and in other countries are already in the Philippines. This gives every cocker and game chicken breeder a wider choice of bloodline or bloodlines to start with. One only has to make up his mind on what characters he wants to combine, and then start scouting for bloodlines that have them for his foundation stock.
The following bloodlines are considered basic bloodlines, which are commonly used in game fowl breeding:
· Regular Grey

Regular Grey is said to be a combination of three grey families: the Law Grey, the Sweater Gray and the Plainhead Muff Grey. Regular Greys come green legged, sometimes with yellow, silver duck wings and straight comb. They are medium to low-stationed, and are known for power and gameness. Breeders note that they are as powerful and dead game as the Bluefaces. Because of these, many breeders have made Regular Grey as their foundation line.
· McLean Hatch

Modern Hatches are more high flying and are faster, many coming more brainy than usual. Their usual characteristics like power and gameness, though, are still there, their blows often packing a wallop. They are basically medium-stationed and peacombed with some coming straight combed.
The Hatch blood came form Sanford Hatch who blended, as story goes, a Kearney Whitehackle with a Kearney Brown Red, mixing in other bloods like the Herman Duryea Boston Roundheads, Jim Thompson Mahoganies, among others, to come up with his signature Hatch fowl. From the Sandy Hatch stocks came Ted McLean’s version of Hatch that came both yellow and green-legged. Supposedly, these were the better Hatches that gave rise to the other variants of the McLean like Gilmore Hatch, Blueface Hatch, Jack Walton Hatch, Kentucky Hatch, Oakgrove Hatch, etc.
· Roundhead

Peacombed, tall and white or yellow legged, Roundheads are considered as ring generals. They are characteristically flyers and agile all-around athletes with superb cutting ability. The most famous among the many Roundheads is the Lacy Roundhead, originated by Judge Lacy. There are other Roundhead families like the Bruners, Sheltons, Allen and Boston. It is widely believed that this family originated from the oriental fowl. They cross well with Clarets, Butchers, Greys, and of course, Hatches.
· Oriental

Shamos, Asils, Japs, Thais, Jolo, Basilan, Parawak – these are just some of the many types of oriental fowl. They are big headed, light-eyed, heavy boned, short and tight feathered and thickly shanked chickens. Very brainy and hardy, these chickens use an off-beat fighting style which twits the aggressive American type of gamefowl. Accurate body hitters and smart side-steppers, asils are usually graded up to an eighth or even a sixteenth with the American fowl in the hope of retaining the desirable cutting and off-beat traits of the Orientals in the resulting battlecrosss. Either you love them or you hate them – that’s the Oriental Fowl.
· Sweater

Today, one is not considered “in” if he is not breeding the Sweater fowl. Yellow legged, peacombed, high stationed, sleek body conformation and with their characteristic pumpkin-orange hackle feathers and swarming offensive fighting style – Sweaters were popularized in the Philippines by Carol NeSmith who won the World Slashers International Derby back to back. As with many families, the origin of Sweater is mired by so many versions, some even contradictory. However, it is commonly accepted that this blood, as originated by Sweater McGinnis, is heavy on the Kelso blood. Today, the more well known Sweaters are those which come from Dink Fiar, Bruce Barnette, Nene Abello, Sonny Lagon, Atty. Jun Mendoza, Raffy Campos and Edwin Aranez, Bebot and Chionkee Uy, among many others.
· Kearney Whitehackle

Kearney Whitehackle is one of the most solid bloodlines used as foundation stocks because of its unquenchable do-or-die gameness. Straight-combed red with the characteristic white underhackle feathers, the Kearney Whitehackle comes yellow legged and sometimes spangle-feathered. This bloodline is one of the gamest among the many Whitehackle subfamilies and is used only for infusion purposes to prop up any floundering bloodline.
· Butcher

Phil Marsh is credited for creating the Butcher bloodline, which is a blend of Grove WhiteHackle and some Spanish fowl, the Speeder Greys. Calling them Butchers because of his occupation, Phil Marsh often fought under the entry name “Butcher Boys”.
Butchers are straight-combed red that often come white-legged with some coming yellow-legged. They are known for their accurate cutting ability and brainy fighting style, leading many experts to say “when a Butcher hits you, you are hit”. Medium to low-stationed, Butchers sometime come spangled and brassback in color, with the latter presently called Black Butchers.
· Blueface Hatch

The Blueface Hatch, a special strain of Hatches, came to be known as such because of its pale-faced appearance, which is similar to the appearance of a fowl with Avian Leucosis. Blueface Hatches are so good that their originator, Sweater McGinnis, decided to breed them some more, with some ending up with Harold Brown, Billy Ruble, Red Richardson, Percy Flowers, William Greene and other American cocking greats. Straight-combed, green-legged and medium to low stationed, Bluefaces have carved a reputation for gameness. Used mainly for foundation blood purposes, old time breeders agree that the best battlecross carries only a quarter or less of the Blueface blood.
· Brown Red

Brown Red has speed and more speed, with cutting to boot – the advantage of this dark fowl. Coming dark-legged, dark-eyed and with characteristic black feathering, this family is a sight to behold, since Brown Reds show more of the razzle-dazzle shuffling action type of fighting, although their drawback is their seeming lack of gameness and stamina. However, because of other infusions made by breeders, there already are Brown Reds that are game enough, lasting for more than 10 minutes. In the drag fight, these fighters are defensive and very calculating, uncharacteristic of a typical Brown Red.
· Lemon 84

Originated by the legend Paeng Araneta, Lemon 84 has become the base used by most Bacolod breeders. Until presently, this line is still winning. Basically from the Hatch-Butcher-Claret blends of the late Duke Hulsey, Paend has been able to create subfamilies from the original stocks.
Lemon 84 (called as such because the original brood cock had legband number 84) comes lemon hackled, peacombed or straight-combed and yellow and green-legged. Although lacking in gameness, Lemon 84 makes up for it with its almost automatic, instinctive and precise sense of timing when it clips the opponent in mid-air and throws his fatal punches or counterpunches. This is its most sought-after trait despite its medium or low station.
· Muff

Eerie looking because of the feathers on its face, the Muff is known for its aggressive frontal fighting style. Muffs throw a barrage of blows with no letup or billhold. Although low-stationed, Muffs have an unerring sense of accuracy when it comes to the cutting department. Basically red in color, they come yellow-legged and peacombed. Noted breeders of this family are Billy Ruble, John Sears and Dr. John Kozura.
· Pyle

Pyle is a plumage color that denotes one that is not red, grey or black. Pyles come white, blue, dom, off-white, off-grey or off-red colors. They are white-legged or yellow-legged and straight or peacombed.
They are known for their high flying style and accurate cutting. Many are not deep game as Hatch or Whitehackle, but there are Pyles that are as game. Currently, they are crossed with the sturdy and hardy lines to hopefully strike the perfect blend of fighting characteristics.
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Game Fowl Bloodlines

With the lifting of importation restrictions, practically all bloodlines developed in the United States of America and in other countries are already in the Philippines. This gives every cocker and game chicken breeder a wider choice of bloodline or bloodlines to start with. One only has to make up his mind on what characters he wants to combine, and then start scouting for bloodlines that have them for his foundation stock.
The following bloodlines are considered basic bloodlines, which are commonly used in game fowl breeding:
· Regular Grey

Regular Grey is said to be a combination of three grey families: the Law Grey, the Sweater Gray and the Plainhead Muff Grey. Regular Greys come green legged, sometimes with yellow, silver duck wings and straight comb. They are medium to low-stationed, and are known for power and gameness. Breeders note that they are as powerful and dead game as the Bluefaces. Because of these, many breeders have made Regular Grey as their foundation line.
· McLean Hatch

Modern Hatches are more high flying and are faster, many coming more brainy than usual. Their usual characteristics like power and gameness, though, are still there, their blows often packing a wallop. They are basically medium-stationed and peacombed with some coming straight combed.
The Hatch blood came form Sanford Hatch who blended, as story goes, a Kearney Whitehackle with a Kearney Brown Red, mixing in other bloods like the Herman Duryea Boston Roundheads, Jim Thompson Mahoganies, among others, to come up with his signature Hatch fowl. From the Sandy Hatch stocks came Ted McLean’s version of Hatch that came both yellow and green-legged. Supposedly, these were the better Hatches that gave rise to the other variants of the McLean like Gilmore Hatch, Blueface Hatch, Jack Walton Hatch, Kentucky Hatch, Oakgrove Hatch, etc.
· Roundhead

Peacombed, tall and white or yellow legged, Roundheads are considered as ring generals. They are characteristically flyers and agile all-around athletes with superb cutting ability. The most famous among the many Roundheads is the Lacy Roundhead, originated by Judge Lacy. There are other Roundhead families like the Bruners, Sheltons, Allen and Boston. It is widely believed that this family originated from the oriental fowl. They cross well with Clarets, Butchers, Greys, and of course, Hatches.
· Oriental

Shamos, Asils, Japs, Thais, Jolo, Basilan, Parawak – these are just some of the many types of oriental fowl. They are big headed, light-eyed, heavy boned, short and tight feathered and thickly shanked chickens. Very brainy and hardy, these chickens use an off-beat fighting style which twits the aggressive American type of gamefowl. Accurate body hitters and smart side-steppers, asils are usually graded up to an eighth or even a sixteenth with the American fowl in the hope of retaining the desirable cutting and off-beat traits of the Orientals in the resulting battlecrosss. Either you love them or you hate them – that’s the Oriental Fowl.
· Sweater

Today, one is not considered “in” if he is not breeding the Sweater fowl. Yellow legged, peacombed, high stationed, sleek body conformation and with their characteristic pumpkin-orange hackle feathers and swarming offensive fighting style – Sweaters were popularized in the Philippines by Carol NeSmith who won the World Slashers International Derby back to back. As with many families, the origin of Sweater is mired by so many versions, some even contradictory. However, it is commonly accepted that this blood, as originated by Sweater McGinnis, is heavy on the Kelso blood. Today, the more well known Sweaters are those which come from Dink Fiar, Bruce Barnette, Nene Abello, Sonny Lagon, Atty. Jun Mendoza, Raffy Campos and Edwin Aranez, Bebot and Chionkee Uy, among many others.
· Kearney Whitehackle

Kearney Whitehackle is one of the most solid bloodlines used as foundation stocks because of its unquenchable do-or-die gameness. Straight-combed red with the characteristic white underhackle feathers, the Kearney Whitehackle comes yellow legged and sometimes spangle-feathered. This bloodline is one of the gamest among the many Whitehackle subfamilies and is used only for infusion purposes to prop up any floundering bloodline.
· Butcher

Phil Marsh is credited for creating the Butcher bloodline, which is a blend of Grove WhiteHackle and some Spanish fowl, the Speeder Greys. Calling them Butchers because of his occupation, Phil Marsh often fought under the entry name “Butcher Boys”.
Butchers are straight-combed red that often come white-legged with some coming yellow-legged. They are known for their accurate cutting ability and brainy fighting style, leading many experts to say “when a Butcher hits you, you are hit”. Medium to low-stationed, Butchers sometime come spangled and brassback in color, with the latter presently called Black Butchers.
· Blueface Hatch

The Blueface Hatch, a special strain of Hatches, came to be known as such because of its pale-faced appearance, which is similar to the appearance of a fowl with Avian Leucosis. Blueface Hatches are so good that their originator, Sweater McGinnis, decided to breed them some more, with some ending up with Harold Brown, Billy Ruble, Red Richardson, Percy Flowers, William Greene and other American cocking greats. Straight-combed, green-legged and medium to low stationed, Bluefaces have carved a reputation for gameness. Used mainly for foundation blood purposes, old time breeders agree that the best battlecross carries only a quarter or less of the Blueface blood.
· Brown Red

Brown Red has speed and more speed, with cutting to boot – the advantage of this dark fowl. Coming dark-legged, dark-eyed and with characteristic black feathering, this family is a sight to behold, since Brown Reds show more of the razzle-dazzle shuffling action type of fighting, although their drawback is their seeming lack of gameness and stamina. However, because of other infusions made by breeders, there already are Brown Reds that are game enough, lasting for more than 10 minutes. In the drag fight, these fighters are defensive and very calculating, uncharacteristic of a typical Brown Red.
· Lemon 84

Originated by the legend Paeng Araneta, Lemon 84 has become the base used by most Bacolod breeders. Until presently, this line is still winning. Basically from the Hatch-Butcher-Claret blends of the late Duke Hulsey, Paend has been able to create subfamilies from the original stocks.
Lemon 84 (called as such because the original brood cock had legband number 84) comes lemon hackled, peacombed or straight-combed and yellow and green-legged. Although lacking in gameness, Lemon 84 makes up for it with its almost automatic, instinctive and precise sense of timing when it clips the opponent in mid-air and throws his fatal punches or counterpunches. This is its most sought-after trait despite its medium or low station.
· Muff

Eerie looking because of the feathers on its face, the Muff is known for its aggressive frontal fighting style. Muffs throw a barrage of blows with no letup or billhold. Although low-stationed, Muffs have an unerring sense of accuracy when it comes to the cutting department. Basically red in color, they come yellow-legged and peacombed. Noted breeders of this family are Billy Ruble, John Sears and Dr. John Kozura.
· Pyle

Pyle is a plumage color that denotes one that is not red, grey or black. Pyles come white, blue, dom, off-white, off-grey or off-red colors. They are white-legged or yellow-legged and straight or peacombed.
They are known for their high flying style and accurate cutting. Many are not deep game as Hatch or Whitehackle, but there are Pyles that are as game. Currently, they are crossed with the sturdy and hardy lines to hopefully strike the perfect blend of fighting characteristics.

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Game Fowl Bloodlines

With the lifting of importation restrictions, practically all bloodlines developed in the United States of America and in other countries are already in the Philippines. This gives every cocker and game chicken breeder a wider choice of bloodline or bloodlines to start with. One only has to make up his mind on what characters he wants to combine, and then start scouting for bloodlines that have them for his foundation stock.
The following bloodlines are considered basic bloodlines, which are commonly used in game fowl breeding:
· Regular Grey

Regular Grey is said to be a combination of three grey families: the Law Grey, the Sweater Gray and the Plainhead Muff Grey. Regular Greys come green legged, sometimes with yellow, silver duck wings and straight comb. They are medium to low-stationed, and are known for power and gameness. Breeders note that they are as powerful and dead game as the Bluefaces. Because of these, many breeders have made Regular Grey as their foundation line.
· McLean Hatch

Modern Hatches are more high flying and are faster, many coming more brainy than usual. Their usual characteristics like power and gameness, though, are still there, their blows often packing a wallop. They are basically medium-stationed and peacombed with some coming straight combed.
The Hatch blood came form Sanford Hatch who blended, as story goes, a Kearney Whitehackle with a Kearney Brown Red, mixing in other bloods like the Herman Duryea Boston Roundheads, Jim Thompson Mahoganies, among others, to come up with his signature Hatch fowl. From the Sandy Hatch stocks came Ted McLean’s version of Hatch that came both yellow and green-legged. Supposedly, these were the better Hatches that gave rise to the other variants of the McLean like Gilmore Hatch, Blueface Hatch, Jack Walton Hatch, Kentucky Hatch, Oakgrove Hatch, etc.
· Roundhead

Peacombed, tall and white or yellow legged, Roundheads are considered as ring generals. They are characteristically flyers and agile all-around athletes with superb cutting ability. The most famous among the many Roundheads is the Lacy Roundhead, originated by Judge Lacy. There are other Roundhead families like the Bruners, Sheltons, Allen and Boston. It is widely believed that this family originated from the oriental fowl. They cross well with Clarets, Butchers, Greys, and of course, Hatches.
· Oriental

Shamos, Asils, Japs, Thais, Jolo, Basilan, Parawak – these are just some of the many types of oriental fowl. They are big headed, light-eyed, heavy boned, short and tight feathered and thickly shanked chickens. Very brainy and hardy, these chickens use an off-beat fighting style which twits the aggressive American type of gamefowl. Accurate body hitters and smart side-steppers, asils are usually graded up to an eighth or even a sixteenth with the American fowl in the hope of retaining the desirable cutting and off-beat traits of the Orientals in the resulting battlecrosss. Either you love them or you hate them – that’s the Oriental Fowl.
· Sweater

Today, one is not considered “in” if he is not breeding the Sweater fowl. Yellow legged, peacombed, high stationed, sleek body conformation and with their characteristic pumpkin-orange hackle feathers and swarming offensive fighting style – Sweaters were popularized in the Philippines by Carol NeSmith who won the World Slashers International Derby back to back. As with many families, the origin of Sweater is mired by so many versions, some even contradictory. However, it is commonly accepted that this blood, as originated by Sweater McGinnis, is heavy on the Kelso blood. Today, the more well known Sweaters are those which come from Dink Fiar, Bruce Barnette, Nene Abello, Sonny Lagon, Atty. Jun Mendoza, Raffy Campos and Edwin Aranez, Bebot and Chionkee Uy, among many others.
· Kearney Whitehackle

Kearney Whitehackle is one of the most solid bloodlines used as foundation stocks because of its unquenchable do-or-die gameness. Straight-combed red with the characteristic white underhackle feathers, the Kearney Whitehackle comes yellow legged and sometimes spangle-feathered. This bloodline is one of the gamest among the many Whitehackle subfamilies and is used only for infusion purposes to prop up any floundering bloodline.
· Butcher

Phil Marsh is credited for creating the Butcher bloodline, which is a blend of Grove WhiteHackle and some Spanish fowl, the Speeder Greys. Calling them Butchers because of his occupation, Phil Marsh often fought under the entry name “Butcher Boys”.
Butchers are straight-combed red that often come white-legged with some coming yellow-legged. They are known for their accurate cutting ability and brainy fighting style, leading many experts to say “when a Butcher hits you, you are hit”. Medium to low-stationed, Butchers sometime come spangled and brassback in color, with the latter presently called Black Butchers.
· Blueface Hatch

The Blueface Hatch, a special strain of Hatches, came to be known as such because of its pale-faced appearance, which is similar to the appearance of a fowl with Avian Leucosis. Blueface Hatches are so good that their originator, Sweater McGinnis, decided to breed them some more, with some ending up with Harold Brown, Billy Ruble, Red Richardson, Percy Flowers, William Greene and other American cocking greats. Straight-combed, green-legged and medium to low stationed, Bluefaces have carved a reputation for gameness. Used mainly for foundation blood purposes, old time breeders agree that the best battlecross carries only a quarter or less of the Blueface blood.
· Brown Red

Brown Red has speed and more speed, with cutting to boot – the advantage of this dark fowl. Coming dark-legged, dark-eyed and with characteristic black feathering, this family is a sight to behold, since Brown Reds show more of the razzle-dazzle shuffling action type of fighting, although their drawback is their seeming lack of gameness and stamina. However, because of other infusions made by breeders, there already are Brown Reds that are game enough, lasting for more than 10 minutes. In the drag fight, these fighters are defensive and very calculating, uncharacteristic of a typical Brown Red.
· Lemon 84

Originated by the legend Paeng Araneta, Lemon 84 has become the base used by most Bacolod breeders. Until presently, this line is still winning. Basically from the Hatch-Butcher-Claret blends of the late Duke Hulsey, Paend has been able to create subfamilies from the original stocks.
Lemon 84 (called as such because the original brood cock had legband number 84) comes lemon hackled, peacombed or straight-combed and yellow and green-legged. Although lacking in gameness, Lemon 84 makes up for it with its almost automatic, instinctive and precise sense of timing when it clips the opponent in mid-air and throws his fatal punches or counterpunches. This is its most sought-after trait despite its medium or low station.
· Muff

Eerie looking because of the feathers on its face, the Muff is known for its aggressive frontal fighting style. Muffs throw a barrage of blows with no letup or billhold. Although low-stationed, Muffs have an unerring sense of accuracy when it comes to the cutting department. Basically red in color, they come yellow-legged and peacombed. Noted breeders of this family are Billy Ruble, John Sears and Dr. John Kozura.
· Pyle

Pyle is a plumage color that denotes one that is not red, grey or black. Pyles come white, blue, dom, off-white, off-grey or off-red colors. They are white-legged or yellow-legged and straight or peacombed.
They are known for their high flying style and accurate cutting. Many are not deep game as Hatch or Whitehackle, but there are Pyles that are as game. Currently, they are crossed with the sturdy and hardy lines to hopefully strike the perfect blend of fighting characteristics.


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Game Fowl Bloodlines

With the lifting of importation restrictions, practically all bloodlines developed in the United States of America and in other countries are already in the Philippines. This gives every cocker and game chicken breeder a wider choice of bloodline or bloodlines to start with. One only has to make up his mind on what characters he wants to combine, and then start scouting for bloodlines that have them for his foundation stock.
The following bloodlines are considered basic bloodlines, which are commonly used in game fowl breeding:
· Regular Grey

Regular Grey is said to be a combination of three grey families: the Law Grey, the Sweater Gray and the Plainhead Muff Grey. Regular Greys come green legged, sometimes with yellow, silver duck wings and straight comb. They are medium to low-stationed, and are known for power and gameness. Breeders note that they are as powerful and dead game as the Bluefaces. Because of these, many breeders have made Regular Grey as their foundation line.
· McLean Hatch

Modern Hatches are more high flying and are faster, many coming more brainy than usual. Their usual characteristics like power and gameness, though, are still there, their blows often packing a wallop. They are basically medium-stationed and peacombed with some coming straight combed.
The Hatch blood came form Sanford Hatch who blended, as story goes, a Kearney Whitehackle with a Kearney Brown Red, mixing in other bloods like the Herman Duryea Boston Roundheads, Jim Thompson Mahoganies, among others, to come up with his signature Hatch fowl. From the Sandy Hatch stocks came Ted McLean’s version of Hatch that came both yellow and green-legged. Supposedly, these were the better Hatches that gave rise to the other variants of the McLean like Gilmore Hatch, Blueface Hatch, Jack Walton Hatch, Kentucky Hatch, Oakgrove Hatch, etc.
· Roundhead

Peacombed, tall and white or yellow legged, Roundheads are considered as ring generals. They are characteristically flyers and agile all-around athletes with superb cutting ability. The most famous among the many Roundheads is the Lacy Roundhead, originated by Judge Lacy. There are other Roundhead families like the Bruners, Sheltons, Allen and Boston. It is widely believed that this family originated from the oriental fowl. They cross well with Clarets, Butchers, Greys, and of course, Hatches.
· Oriental

Shamos, Asils, Japs, Thais, Jolo, Basilan, Parawak – these are just some of the many types of oriental fowl. They are big headed, light-eyed, heavy boned, short and tight feathered and thickly shanked chickens. Very brainy and hardy, these chickens use an off-beat fighting style which twits the aggressive American type of gamefowl. Accurate body hitters and smart side-steppers, asils are usually graded up to an eighth or even a sixteenth with the American fowl in the hope of retaining the desirable cutting and off-beat traits of the Orientals in the resulting battlecrosss. Either you love them or you hate them – that’s the Oriental Fowl.
· Sweater

Today, one is not considered “in” if he is not breeding the Sweater fowl. Yellow legged, peacombed, high stationed, sleek body conformation and with their characteristic pumpkin-orange hackle feathers and swarming offensive fighting style – Sweaters were popularized in the Philippines by Carol NeSmith who won the World Slashers International Derby back to back. As with many families, the origin of Sweater is mired by so many versions, some even contradictory. However, it is commonly accepted that this blood, as originated by Sweater McGinnis, is heavy on the Kelso blood. Today, the more well known Sweaters are those which come from Dink Fiar, Bruce Barnette, Nene Abello, Sonny Lagon, Atty. Jun Mendoza, Raffy Campos and Edwin Aranez, Bebot and Chionkee Uy, among many others.
· Kearney Whitehackle

Kearney Whitehackle is one of the most solid bloodlines used as foundation stocks because of its unquenchable do-or-die gameness. Straight-combed red with the characteristic white underhackle feathers, the Kearney Whitehackle comes yellow legged and sometimes spangle-feathered. This bloodline is one of the gamest among the many Whitehackle subfamilies and is used only for infusion purposes to prop up any floundering bloodline.
· Butcher

Phil Marsh is credited for creating the Butcher bloodline, which is a blend of Grove WhiteHackle and some Spanish fowl, the Speeder Greys. Calling them Butchers because of his occupation, Phil Marsh often fought under the entry name “Butcher Boys”.
Butchers are straight-combed red that often come white-legged with some coming yellow-legged. They are known for their accurate cutting ability and brainy fighting style, leading many experts to say “when a Butcher hits you, you are hit”. Medium to low-stationed, Butchers sometime come spangled and brassback in color, with the latter presently called Black Butchers.
· Blueface Hatch

The Blueface Hatch, a special strain of Hatches, came to be known as such because of its pale-faced appearance, which is similar to the appearance of a fowl with Avian Leucosis. Blueface Hatches are so good that their originator, Sweater McGinnis, decided to breed them some more, with some ending up with Harold Brown, Billy Ruble, Red Richardson, Percy Flowers, William Greene and other American cocking greats. Straight-combed, green-legged and medium to low stationed, Bluefaces have carved a reputation for gameness. Used mainly for foundation blood purposes, old time breeders agree that the best battlecross carries only a quarter or less of the Blueface blood.
· Brown Red

Brown Red has speed and more speed, with cutting to boot – the advantage of this dark fowl. Coming dark-legged, dark-eyed and with characteristic black feathering, this family is a sight to behold, since Brown Reds show more of the razzle-dazzle shuffling action type of fighting, although their drawback is their seeming lack of gameness and stamina. However, because of other infusions made by breeders, there already are Brown Reds that are game enough, lasting for more than 10 minutes. In the drag fight, these fighters are defensive and very calculating, uncharacteristic of a typical Brown Red.
· Lemon 84

Originated by the legend Paeng Araneta, Lemon 84 has become the base used by most Bacolod breeders. Until presently, this line is still winning. Basically from the Hatch-Butcher-Claret blends of the late Duke Hulsey, Paend has been able to create subfamilies from the original stocks.
Lemon 84 (called as such because the original brood cock had legband number 84) comes lemon hackled, peacombed or straight-combed and yellow and green-legged. Although lacking in gameness, Lemon 84 makes up for it with its almost automatic, instinctive and precise sense of timing when it clips the opponent in mid-air and throws his fatal punches or counterpunches. This is its most sought-after trait despite its medium or low station.
· Muff

Eerie looking because of the feathers on its face, the Muff is known for its aggressive frontal fighting style. Muffs throw a barrage of blows with no letup or billhold. Although low-stationed, Muffs have an unerring sense of accuracy when it comes to the cutting department. Basically red in color, they come yellow-legged and peacombed. Noted breeders of this family are Billy Ruble, John Sears and Dr. John Kozura.
· Pyle

Pyle is a plumage color that denotes one that is not red, grey or black. Pyles come white, blue, dom, off-white, off-grey or off-red colors. They are white-legged or yellow-legged and straight or peacombed.
They are known for their high flying style and accurate cutting. Many are not deep game as Hatch or Whitehackle, but there are Pyles that are as game. Currently, they are crossed with the sturdy and hardy lines to hopefully strike the perfect blend of fighting characteristics.



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