[lemon_edz]

good day doc.. what would i add to a ready mix grains so that i can come up, if not equal or more or less the same to your mixture of grains in your book? because some of the ingreidents in your mixture are not present here in our poultry supply stores thats why im using ready mix grains
im using thunderbird.. or can you suggest me any brand?
tnx a lot..

[tjtcokngacademy]

Since availability of the individual grains listed in my keep is a big problem in your area.. i suggest you use the MULTI-GRAIN conditioner of thunderbird or sagupaan. From this 1 kg ready mix pack...you add (200 grams) whole corn and (200 grams) red wheat(trigo). The total weight of this concentrate mixture is 1kg. & 400 grams.

modified grain mixture------8 parts
conditioning pellets----------2 parts

Then from this mixture, you add the other ingredients listed in the book and approaching your 18th day just follow the cabo-loading method till fight day.

[lemon_edz]

good Day Doc. Just Confused A Little Bit.
Modified Grain Mixture (8 Parts) + Conditioning Pellets (2 Parts) Is This The Complete Mixture That I Am Going To Give? What Is The Difference In 50/50 Grains/pellets Mixture During Conditioining? Which One Has The Higher Risk Na Magkasaspula ? Maraming Salamat Po Doc..

hatol ng thunderbird ay mixture ng 50% multi-grains at 50% platinum or power pellets ang ibibigay sa kinokondisyon na manok para sa ilalaban na mga nokis (sasapulahin talaga iyang mga nokis mo pag iyang mixture na iyan ang ibibigay mong patuka bilang maintenance lang dahil masagana iyan sa carbohydrates) - meron din na multi-grains ang thunderbird para sa maintenance feed lang.

iyang ibinigay sa iyo ni doc tjt ay para sa ilalaban din na mga nokis kaya nga may dagdag na mais (preparasyon para sa carbo-loading).

sorry doc tjt at tinagalog ko na

[tjtcokngacademy]

Good explanation ryan.
You can call me anytime lemon_edz to simplify things for you.

[jaro J]

doc sent you a pm in regards to what my kumpare learned from your june batch class.
baka pwede rin ho paki pm # nyo kung sakali pwede ho ko kyo din kontakin. tanx

[tjtcokngacademy]

I have spoken to your kumpare and was able to make some modifications based on what is available in your area....But if you think that nagkakasapola sila, increase the jockey oats and lessen the corn. He will have to call me every 2 weeks to give me his input on the feel of the chickens. If necessary, then adjustments can be made.

[bunguton]

hi guys!

[nilodeleon]

cockmates,
can anybody give me the list of ingredients of doc teddy's conditioning and keep feeds please, and are there two different variations of feeds for stags and 2 year olds?
thanks,
nilo

[mundray]

[quote=tjtcokngacademy]Since availability of the individual grains listed in my keep is a big problem in your area.. i suggest you use the MULTI-GRAIN conditioner of thunderbird or sagupaan. From this 1 kg ready mix pack...you add (200 grams) whole corn and (200 grams) red wheat(trigo). The total weight of this concentrate mixture is 1kg. & 400 grams.

modified grain mixture------8 parts
conditioning pellets----------2 parts

Then from this mixture, you add the other ingredients listed in the book and approaching your 18th day just follow the cabo-loading method till fight day.

Doc, when we say "parts" what is the exact equivalent of this? like for example we condition 5 cocks only.

[allan_dubai]

i just post it, i've learned it from a trusted breeder in San Pablo Laguna

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...ingmixture.jpg

Sir mundray,

If you are going to condition 5 heads only and you are giving 2 table spoons each head
you must mix the feeds by 8 parts (spoon) of grains and 2 parts (spoon) of pellets plus additives. hope you understand... keep on cocking...

[mundray]

Originally Posted by allan_dubai

i just post it, i've learned it from a trusted breeder in San Pablo Laguna

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...ingmixture.jpg

Sir mundray,

If you are going to condition 5 heads only and you are giving 2 table spoons each head
you must mix the feeds by 8 parts (spoon) of grains and 2 parts (spoon) of pellets plus additives. hope you understand... keep on cocking...

Thank you so much sir allan for your kindness..

[bollard]

Doc TJT, i would like to ask whats the best to do if a cock dont digest faster, i feed him morning and in the afternoon theirs still remaining feeds. I try not to feed him but theirs still a little amount of feeds left.

Thanks and More Power.

Bollard

[tjtcokngacademy]

Originally Posted by bollard

Doc TJT, i would like to ask whats the best to do if a cock dont digest faster, i feed him morning and in the afternoon theirs still remaining feeds. I try not to feed him but theirs still a little amount of feeds left.

Thanks and More Power.

Bollard

I suggest that you fast him for a day, to make him completely empty (gut-empty).
The following day, feed only half the amount of his regular ration. Adding more pellets (60%) in proportion to his grain (40%) mixture will lessen their effort to digest.
It is best to administer a metabolic stimulant like>Coforta ( Inject IM 1cc once a day for 5 consecutive days).

Adding lactobacilli as a supplement can also promote good digestion.

Provide water and stone grits at all times.

[nielyams]

Another inputs again! keep on posting!!
Keep on Cocking!!! Knowledge is POWER!

[bagwis]

Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy

Since availability of the individual grains listed in my keep is a big problem in your area.. i suggest you use the MULTI-GRAIN conditioner of thunderbird or sagupaan. From this 1 kg ready mix pack...you add (200 grams) whole corn and (200 grams) red wheat(trigo). The total weight of this concentrate mixture is 1kg. & 400 grams.

modified grain mixture------8 parts
conditioning pellets----------2 parts

Then from this mixture, you add the other ingredients listed in the book and approaching your 18th day just follow the cabo-loading method till fight day.

doc teddy, just a follow up question...
can i use a cracked corn instead of a whole corn?
what's the difference?
thanks and more power.

[sugwan8]

up ko lang para makita ni doc!!!


good nice question, ano ba talaga ang pag ka iba ng crack corn sa whole corn.

[garlain]

Doc Good Day Po Sa Inyo! I Really Need Your Help Regarding My Three Roosters Who Are Eating Soil, First They Drink Water And Spit It Out On The Ground And After They Will Eat The Wet Part Of The Soil. What Could I Possibly Do To Stop This. Hope You Could Give Me Some Aadvice On What To Do Regarding This Problem. Thank You Very Much And More Power To The Tjt Academy.

[tjtcokngacademy]

Originally Posted by bagwis

doc teddy, just a follow up question...
can i use a cracked corn instead of a whole corn?
what's the difference?
thanks and more power.

When it comes to the ripening process of a grain, whole corn in particular, has more "intact nutrients" compared to crack corn.
What we need to understand is that a number of key nutrients are lost during the drying process and the length of time it was stored.
Remember that Corn gives them that needed SNAP on fight day and it is for this reason why we need to be very meticulous as to the quality and freshness of the grains that we give to our fowls.

[sugwan8]

maraming salamat doc.
atleast malaman din namin ang kaibahan ng wholecorn sa crack corn. thnks a lot

[basyo]

Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy

Since availability of the individual grains listed in my keep is a big problem in your area.. i suggest you use the MULTI-GRAIN conditioner of thunderbird or sagupaan. From this 1 kg ready mix pack...you add (200 grams) whole corn and (200 grams) red wheat(trigo). The total weight of this concentrate mixture is 1kg. & 400 grams.

modified grain mixture------8 parts
conditioning pellets----------2 parts

Then from this mixture, you add the other ingredients listed in the book and approaching your 18th day just follow the cabo-loading method till fight day.

thank you DOC Ill try this mixture.

[lemon_edz]

thanks doc.. it really helps

[benedict]

Doc,


Is there any difference in the nutrients on the type or variety of corn(sweetcorn,popcorn or other varities) you can buy in the market.

thanx

[sugwan8]

d ata gumagamit si doc ng pop corn

[nensky]

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[genghiskhan7]

8 parts and 2 parts, i grasp it as 80-20 feeding ratio 80% grains and 20% pellets. good pm ho sa lahat

[nensky]

up uli natin........................

[nensky]

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[MAXIMUS655]

DOC BAT UNG RED WHEAT ANG HIRAP MAKAKAKITA SA MARKET...... I FIND IT EVERY WHERE HERE IN RIZAL PERO WALA ME MAKITA.. SAN KAYA MERON NUN?

[tjtcokngacademy]

Originally Posted by MAXIMUS655

DOC BAT UNG RED WHEAT ANG HIRAP MAKAKAKITA SA MARKET...... I FIND IT EVERY WHERE HERE IN RIZAL PERO WALA ME MAKITA.. SAN KAYA MERON NUN?

Red trigo (red wheat) is abundant in Manila.
Try visiting Farmbreed or Progressive Supply.

If you want to be meticulous on your feeding???you would go out of your way, just to get the right grains for your chickens.