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Old May 16th, 2007, 06:53 AM   #1
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My peeps are either not hatching or when they do hatch they die shortly after. The peeps that are not hatching are whole peeps when I crack them open a week after they are supposed to hatch. Does nayone know why this is happening?
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Old May 17th, 2007, 06:55 PM   #2
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(PEEPS) is that CHICKS?
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Old May 18th, 2007, 04:21 AM   #3
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Old May 18th, 2007, 05:06 AM   #4
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This is related topic from the other thread. Sorry but can't translate this in to english hehehehe...
Re: bakit namamatay ang sisiw sa itlog
Dear friends,
Although, I'm a new comer in this site,let me give you some hints kung paano maiiwasan mamatay ang sisiw sa loob ng itlog. ito'y sa akin lang naman. may incubator din ako dito na gawa ko lang din. Ang ginagawa ko'y isinasawsaw ko yun itlog for 1 to 2 second sa maligamgam na tubig o katulad ng temperature ng incubator yun init ng tubig,ginagawa ko ito on the 18th day o yun tinatawag natin hatching period then ibabalik ko uli sa hatching area ng incubator at di na bubuksan pa untill magpisaan na ang mga itlog. Subok ko na rin ito. Thanks.
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Old May 18th, 2007, 05:07 AM   #5
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Re: bakit namamatay ang sisiw sa itlog
Dear Sir,
Pag nag chip-out na kasi yun sisiw,papasok na kasi yun hangin sa loob ng itlog at mag uumpisa ng tumigas yun white membrane ng itlog. Most of those breeders forgot to replenish the water pan that resulted to moisture drop down and it will be too late..di na makakalabas yun sisiw sa itlog at tuluyan ng mamamatay. By dipping the egg( not your balls!! he!he!he!) for a couple of seconds to a warm water will surely make the white membrane elastic and easy for our chicks to come out in the open. Just greet those chicks "WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF VIRUS AND BACTERIA".
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Old May 18th, 2007, 05:27 AM   #6
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Re: Dead peeps

Check your incubator hygrometer/thermometer, there might be insconsistency with the temperature that's causing prematurity or damage to your eggs.

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My peeps are either not hatching or when they do hatch they die shortly after. The peeps that are not hatching are whole peeps when I crack them open a week after they are supposed to hatch. Does nayone know why this is happening?
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Old May 19th, 2007, 10:42 AM   #7
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Good Day! Doc Teddy would like to apologize for not having replied to your queries because aside from upgrading his computer, he is currently in Tagaytay for the scheduled seminar. He wants you to continue posting your ideas & questions in this thread and he promises to reply to them as soon as he gets back.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 11:19 AM   #8
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Re: Dead peeps

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Since all the eggs have an embryo in them,we have a hatchability and not a fertility problem. When the embryo dies during incubation, it is usually a nutritional deficiency. Provide a hi-protein diet before you start your breeding season.
WHISKA'S cat food is the best supplement since it contains "taurine" which is important during breeding.
Provide B-complex shot on a twice a week basis and administer Vit. ADE injectable twice a week for 2 months.
Lastly, Apong Ambo is right about checking the right temperature and humidity reading inside your incubator. I usually use 2-3 thermometers inside the incubator to be sure that you get the right reading because these instruments don't last long.

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Old May 22nd, 2007, 12:58 PM   #9
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Try this web site !!!! its for kids but very informative.

http://pa4h.poultry.psu.edu/Embryolo...mbry%20Dev.pdf
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 01:08 PM   #10
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Re: Dead peeps

Doc Ted

Which Whiska's catfood do you suggess sir? The Wet Food (Canned) or the Dry Food (In bags)? And what is the % of the catfood do we add to the hens total feed? And should this supplement be added throughout the breeding season? Sorry sir too many questions

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Since all the eggs have an embryo in them,we have a hatchability and not a fertility problem. When the embryo dies during incubation, it is usually a nutritional deficiency. Provide a hi-protein diet before you start your breeding season.
WHISKA'S cat food is the best supplement since it contains "taurine" which is important during breeding.
Provide B-complex shot on a twice a week basis and administer Vit. ADE injectable twice a week for 2 months.
Lastly, Apong Ambo is right about checking the right temperature and humidity reading inside your incubator. I usually use 2-3 thermometers inside the incubator to be sure that you get the right reading because these instruments don't last long.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:01 PM   #11
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 04:55 PM   #12
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Old May 24th, 2007, 10:32 AM   #13
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They are already on a high protein diet. They are getting the same food i gave them for the last 12 years and i have had a 90% hatch rate and now they are not hatching in an incubator and when they have a hen sitting on them.
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Old May 30th, 2007, 11:16 PM   #14
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Re: Dead peeps

CHICKS FULLY FORMED BUT DEAD WITHOUT PIPPING:

Probable Cause:
- Low humidity in incubator
- Too high temperature in hatcher
- Lack of ventilation in hatcher
- Microbial Comtamination
- Breeder Flock Nutrition
- Thin shell

Suggested Corrective Measure:
- Incubation Temperature should be homogeneous - same at any point inside the
incubator and maintained all throughout the incubation process
- Incubation Temperature should be maintained at 99.5 F (range from 99 F-100 F; 98 F
to 101 F but not over a long period of time) for forced-air incubators or with blower
fan; still air incubators (no blower fan) tamperature should be maintained at 102 F
- Humidity for incubator: 55% - 60% or a wetbulb reading of 85 F to 87 F.
- Temperature inside the hatcher should be 98 F
- Humidity inside the hatcher should be 70% - 85% or a wetbulb rading of 90 F - 94 F.
- Gather eggs right after laying or several times a day to prevent microbial conta
mination
- Store eggs in cooler place not more than 7 days before setting
- Sanitize incubator and hatcher right after every hatch
- Sanitize eggs before setting in the incubator
- Proper breederfowl nutrition, correct levels of required vitamins and minerals Vits A&E

It is very important that the incubator has good heatholding capacity.
If all above listed recommendations are followed, there is no reason that your eggs will not hatch. IMPORTANT: Do not help the chicks from the shell during hatching time. Kapag ang sisiw ay hindi kayang sipain ang sariling shell, wala rin itong kakayahan sumipa sa kalaban sa rueda later on. Remember, incubation is the process that determines the quality and vitality of day-old chicks that ULTIMATELY determines the technical performance of your fighting cocks.
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Old May 30th, 2007, 11:20 PM   #15
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Old May 31st, 2007, 10:18 AM   #17
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Re: Dead peeps

Hi doc teddy, a was just so anxious to impart the technolgy we have at tjt. basta inquiries on incubation and hatchery mgt, we will be most willing to be of help, baka sakaling makatulong.


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please look for my posts at the Chickken Talk, i will be posting a series of articles on incubation operation and hathcery management
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Old May 31st, 2007, 02:36 PM   #18
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Maraming salamat sa mga tips
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Old May 31st, 2007, 04:48 PM   #19
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I use the pelletized Whiskas Cat Food but i soak it for 10 minutes before feeding.
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I use the pelletized Whiskas Cat Food but i soak it for 10 minutes before feeding.
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Great info. Keep em coming.



Thanks Doc Ted, I will try this next breeding season
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Old June 16th, 2007, 05:12 PM   #21
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Re: Dead peeps

TJT,
How many cc per shot of B-complex and Vit. ADE?
When do we start the B-complex and the Vit. ADE?
Do we give B-complex and Vit. ADE to both Broodcock and Broodhen the same dose?
Thanks,
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Since all the eggs have an embryo in them,we have a hatchability and not a fertility problem. When the embryo dies during incubation, it is usually a nutritional deficiency. Provide a hi-protein diet before you start your breeding season.
WHISKA'S cat food is the best supplement since it contains "taurine" which is important during breeding.
Provide B-complex shot on a twice a week basis and administer Vit. ADE injectable twice a week for 2 months.
Lastly, Apong Ambo is right about checking the right temperature and humidity reading inside your incubator. I usually use 2-3 thermometers inside the incubator to be sure that you get the right reading because these instruments don't last long.

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