[lemon_edz]

good day doc.. just want to be corrected. im a young backyard breeder who have 14 stags right now. this is the product of my first breeding. my feed mixture is 2 packs of thunder bird stag developer, 1 kilo BSC, mixed with grind 1/2 kilo crack corn and 1/2 kilo special concentrete. some of them consume all and some not. i deworm them all at 4am then give them bread soaked with milk in the morning. I deloused them and sometimes skip one meal for them to regain their apetite the next feeding time. but still some dont have that apetite im looking. is thier something wrong with my mixture? i give them also selectrogen in thier water. and place sometimes pullets in thier flying pen. can you give me new mixture. tnxx.

[ghieplaton]

tama yung ginagawa mo pre pero kahit masarap ang pagkain mo minsan may ganyang manok talaga.kami sa manukan namin monthly nagpaflushing muna kami ng antibiotic for 3 days tapos deworming tapos delousing monthly din iba iba ang mga ginagamit naming antibiotic dewormer at shampoo tpos every week for example sa manukan namin hindi kami nagpapakain tuwing linggo ng umaga makakatipid ka na gaganahan pang kumain ang manok mo kc gutom makikita mo makakaubos din yang ng pagkain


samburikit/ohde

[GG Crasher]

Up up up lang natin para madaling ma pansin..... gusto ko rin malaman kung bakit at ano ang dapat pang gawin....

[GG Crasher]

Sorry.... i forgot this thread is all about English speaking.... sorry i spoke Taglish...

[ghieplaton]

ooops....sorry iforgot also

[g-ayo]

try supplementing them with b-complex vitamins to enhance thier appetite..how many grams of feed do you give them..sometimes we tend to overfeed them because we get excited and want them to develop faster than usual..in the process they will lose thier interest on the food given..
or maybe you need to rotate them around diffrent pens or teepee's evry week to make them always active to stimulate thier appetite a bit..the weather might also be a factor if its too hot or too cold or wet..anyway lets wait for the doctors advice for a more effective solution..goodluck my friend...

[lemon_edz]

g-ayo thanks..
ya i rotate them in thier flyng pen with a short cord in thier legs. but everytime i do it they just play their feeds and try to chalenge their new room mate or calling the pullets that is roaming around. i give them them sometimes 20-30-40grms it depends their apetite. i check for pepita but no signs. but they all have red face and allert. the problem is sometimes their apetite..

[tjtcokngacademy]

Before I answer your question, which of those ingredients are often left by your roosters?

[lemon_edz]

crckcorn and some thunderbird pellets

[P_U_L_A]

lemon_edz,

try to give them a bottle of SanMiglite just kidding boss hehehe

[sunblade68]

maintencance mixtures
2 part maintenance pellets (thunderbird)
1 part whole corn
1 part concentrates
1 part jackey oats (soak 2day)

its work for me

[tjtcokngacademy]

One possible reason why they don't finish their feeds is the absence of stone grits in their diet. I suggest that you provide stone grits & clean water at all times. You can also lessen your pellet mixture because I think it's too much, and since it's summer...... you can also lessen their corn intake.
Giving B-Complex shot (.5cc) twice a week for 2 consecutive weeks might restore their appetite.
For the picky feeder, try skipping 2 meals and when you resume, feed only half of the regular amount until they.... consume everything. Then you can put them back to their regular ration.

[bunguton]

hey just follow the good doctors advice...

[Dynamite asil]

Good Day DOC.

I Received your conditioning CDs and already tested it and the result are 3 fast win out of 3 fights, I have question about the holding ratio what is the %CP should I used in your mixture and where can we buy the grits?, Only oyster grit is availlable in poultry supply. I can't get stone or granite grits. Thanks.

[lemon_edz]

tnx DOC.. ill try that one.. clean water is stricly administer in my backyard farm.. anyway thanks to all..

[tjtcokngacademy]

Congratulations, amigo!
Holding Ration: 16%CP
Stone grits: available in Farm Breed Poultry Supply..... you can also use True Grits.

[mylod]

Doc, for maintenance feed is 60% pellet and 40% cracked corn good enough? (thinking economically).

Baka magkasapola mga manok mo. and if you're not sure with the moisture of your corn, it might contain aflatoxin, why not use ordinary concentrate with lots of red trigo instead.

Just Imagine corn based Feed Millers, they are strict in selecting corn and they are using toxin binders to lower the Aflatoxin level.

be careful sir. Happy cocking.

Dexter

[redspider]

[DNA-Farm]

tjt,
How do you give the Stone grits or true grits.
Thanks,
DNA

Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy

Congratulations, amigo!
Holding Ration: 16%CP
Stone grits: available in Farm Breed Poultry Supply..... you can also use True Grits.

[tjtcokngacademy]

I put a claypot filled with stonegrits placed inside their pens or teepees, so that they will have the freedom to pick on the stones whenever they need it.

[DNA-Farm]

Many thanks doc

[tjtcokngacademy]

If raw stone grits are not available, the closest substitute is True Grits(capsule form). I suggest that you break open the capsule and pour the contents as toppings on your feed. Take note that the chicken's natural instinct is to pick on the grits whenever they need it. Thus, forcibly giving it in capsulized form might do more harm than good especially if their gizzard is already loaded with it.
Let this be a guiding principle: Stop giving stone grits on the last four(4) days of your 21 Day Keep.

[tjtcokngacademy]

Originally Posted by mylod

Doc, for maintenance feed is 60% pellet and 40% cracked corn good enough? (thinking economically).

Sorry for my late reply.. amigo. They have the tendency to accumulate gut fat using this proportion.

[jaro J]

doc, what do you think of this mixture as maintenance feed for 7 months & up?
20% crack corn
30% hagibis
10%jockey oats
10% yellow trigo
30% thunderbird highlander/platinum pellets mixed 50:50

[murdoc]

up

[tjtcokngacademy]

jaro j
Looks okey.

[jaro J]

tnx doc.
One more question, is it ok if we use dry feeding system all year out for maintenance only?

[tjtcokngacademy]

If your birds possess a well-rounded chest, then "dry feeding" is OKEY. Generally, giving dry feeds to thin-chested roosters will only make them LIGHTER (underweight).

Therefore, you should categorize those birds that can be fed "DRY".........and those birds (thin-breasted) that should be given "soaked feeding".

[jaro J]

tnx again doc.
by the way, i just received some good news today from my friend who I sent to attend your class last june. He said, he won and 'twas against a tough cocker from tanza. He probably would have won 2x in a row using your expertise. Unfortunately, the tari we just got from augustmoon really was a waste of investment & had to use our friend's tari instead.
tnx again doc and tnx to your academy. So far, everything is looking good for us & hopefully more wins to come.