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Old April 17th, 2007, 07:29 PM   #1
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About creatine

Hello Doc Ted,

Magandang araw saiyo.

Tanong ko lang po kung walang side effect sa manok ang paggamit nga creatine.
Mayroon kasi akong manok na hindi gaano bumubuka ang katawan kahit anong gawin ko. 2 months na po siyang naka pre-condition pero hindi pa rin bumubuka ang katawan. Na deworm at delouse ko na naman sya during the start of the pre-conditioning. I already inject b-complex every week, pero manipis pa rin. Kaya naisipan kong bigyan ng creatine.

Conditioning method niyo pa ang aking sinusunod dahil isa po ako sa nakabili saiyo ng VCD at book for conditioning. Medyo nag-aalanganin po akong lumaban gamit ang manok na ito dahil parang walang tibay ang katawan. Ang mga kasabay nya sa unang Pre-conditioning stage ay nailaban ko na at lahat ay nanalo. 20 months na po ang edad ng manok na ito kaya gusto ko na syang ilaban.

Sana mapayohan mo ako kung maari ko bang gamitan nga creatine para bumuka naman ang katawan ng manok ko.


Maraming salamat po at mabuhay ang TJT Academy.




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Old April 18th, 2007, 05:08 PM   #2
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Re: About creatine

Ang Creatine monohydrate ay magandang gamitin para ma-build up mo ang katawan ng manok na kulang sa lapad ang dibdib. Binibigay ko ito ng one capsule a day sa loob ng isang linggo. Importante na naka-soak ang grains mo at mas makakabuti kung may supplement na Hi-Pro Dog Food para ma-short cut mo ang pagpapalapad ng kanyang dibdib. Dapat ay napurga mo rin siya ng maayos (follow-up on the 10th day) para siguradong walang kaagaw sa nutrition.
Kapag hindi pa nag-respond ang manok mo sa creatine within 10 days, may malabsorbtion problem na iyan, at dapat mag-isipisip ka na??? kung nararapat pa ba siyang ilaban. Siguro ay alam mo na ang ibig kong sabihin.
Mas malapit ang panalo sa mga manok na maayos ang pangangatawan.

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Old April 19th, 2007, 03:14 PM   #3
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maraming salamat po doc.
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Old April 19th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #4
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Re: About creatine

Okey...how Abuot The Powder Doc?? Ilang Tsp, Ba Ang Dapat Ibigay At Ilang Araw B4 The Fight Bago Magstop Ka Ng Bigay......ano Ang Paraan Sa Pagbigay Ano Ang Halo Nya.....this Only A Clarification Sa Makalimutin Kong Pag-isip...salamat
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Old April 19th, 2007, 08:32 PM   #5
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nice info doc....san po ba puede makabili ng creatine?me available po ba nito sa market?
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Old April 19th, 2007, 09:16 PM   #6
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Re: About creatine

Okey...how Abuot The Powder Doc?? Ilang Tsp, Ba Ang Dapat Ibigay At Ilang Araw B4 The Fight Bago Magstop Ka Ng Bigay......ano Ang Paraan Sa Pagbigay Ano Ang Halo Nya
Salamat po DOC
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Ang Creatine monohydrate ay magandang gamitin para ma-build up mo ang katawan ng manok na kulang sa lapad ang dibdib. Binibigay ko ito ng one capsule a day sa loob ng isang linggo. Importante na naka-soak ang grains mo at mas makakabuti kung may supplement na Hi-Pro Dog Food para ma-short cut mo ang pagpapalapad ng kanyang dibdib. Dapat ay napurga mo rin siya ng maayos (follow-up on the 10th day) para siguradong walang kaagaw sa nutrition.
Kapag hindi pa nag-respond ang manok mo sa creatine within 10 days, may malabsorbtion problem na iyan, at dapat mag-isipisip ka na??? kung nararapat pa ba siyang ilaban. Siguro ay alam mo na ang ibig kong sabihin.
Mas malapit ang panalo sa mga manok na maayos ang pangangatawan.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 11:43 AM   #7
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Ang creatine monohydrate ay nabibili sa GNC stores (Health Care & Body Building Products) na makikita sa mga MALLS.
Hindi ako gumagamit ng powder kasi mahirap tantsahin at maaaring hindi equal ang distribution ng powder sa grain mixture mo. Mas maganda kung ilalagay ang powder sa 'empty gelatin capsule' (size 3-0) na nabibili sa mercury drug store, para siguradong exact ang amount na nabibigay mo sa bawa't manok.
I only give creatine for 7-10 days only... because they have the tendency to be "muscle-bound".

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Old April 20th, 2007, 04:53 PM   #8
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Re: About creatine

Okey...kaya Maganda Yong Capsule Na Lang.....thanks Doc...
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Old April 20th, 2007, 05:11 PM   #9
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Thank DOC for the info really appreciate it.
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Old April 25th, 2007, 01:19 AM   #10
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Sir Ted,
I bought your conditioning magazine 4 years ago and you didn't mention creatine. In one of the cocking seminar that I attended in year 2000,they advice us to use creatine in the last 5 days of keep( 1 gram/head ). Doc,you wrote that you use creatine 7-10 days, does it mean 7th to 10th day? Or 1 week or 10 days? Based on the your magazine's 21 days conditioning program. What day I'm going start giving creatine? Is it on the 15th day to fight day? Or 12th day to fight day? Please,do clarify.....thanks
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Old April 25th, 2007, 02:09 AM   #11
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Re: About creatine

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Ang creatine ay hindi kasama sa 21 day keep medication. Ang paggamit ng creatine ay binabagay ko lamang sa mga manok na may kanipisan ang dibdib. Ito ay nababagay gamitin during preconditioning stage wherein dito mo sila bininigyan ng magandang "foundation" gaya ng malapad na pangangatawan. Itinitigil ko sa ika-pitong araw ang pagbigay, para hindi sumikip ang kanilang hipo at hindi makaapekto sa "cutting ability" ng inyong manok.
Tandaan ninyo na may posibilidad na maging "muscle bound" ang inyong panlaban lalo na kung inabuso ninyo ang paggamit nito.
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Old April 25th, 2007, 02:19 AM   #12
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Thank you,Doc Ted...
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Old April 25th, 2007, 09:39 AM   #13
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DOC ask ko lang, pwede bang bigyan ng Creatine Capsule ang manok kahit na hindi mo naman pa sila ilalaban? para lang medyo gumanda ang katawan.
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Old April 25th, 2007, 07:59 PM   #14
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Ang Creatine monohydrate ay magandang gamitin para ma-build up mo ang katawan ng manok na kulang sa lapad ang dibdib. Binibigay ko ito ng one capsule a day sa loob ng isang linggo. Importante na naka-soak ang grains mo at mas makakabuti kung may supplement na Hi-Pro Dog Food para ma-short cut mo ang pagpapalapad ng kanyang dibdib. Dapat ay napurga mo rin siya ng maayos (follow-up on the 10th day) para siguradong walang kaagaw sa nutrition.
Kapag hindi pa nag-respond ang manok mo sa creatine within 10 days, may malabsorbtion problem na iyan, at dapat mag-isipisip ka na??? kung nararapat pa ba siyang ilaban. Siguro ay alam mo na ang ibig kong sabihin.
Mas malapit ang panalo sa mga manok na maayos ang pangangatawan.
doc ted, puwede po bang malaman kung paano ang pagbibigay ng dog food? salamat po.
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Old April 26th, 2007, 06:50 AM   #15
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Bigyan ng 3-5 pieces of dog food every other day. Itigil mo na lamang kung medyo bumibigat na siya at nagkaka-sapola.
edd santos
Mas magandang i-posisyon ang creatine sa "pre-con" para gumanda at lumapad na kagad ang katawan ng balak mong ihandang manok.
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Old April 30th, 2007, 12:49 PM   #16
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Bigyan ng 3-5 pieces of dog food every other day. Itigil mo na lamang kung medyo bumibigat na siya at nagkaka-sapola.
edd santos
Mas magandang i-posisyon ang creatine sa "pre-con" para gumanda at lumapad na kagad ang katawan ng balak mong ihandang manok.
salamat po doc teddy. more power....
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Old September 23rd, 2007, 07:38 AM   #17
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salamat doc may natotonan na namn ako
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 02:06 PM   #18
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Correct Me If I Am Wrong ....about Creatin...ito Ay Ginagamit Yong Nga Taong Na Bodybuilders.. If You Used This Product Then You Need To Exercise
Pag Hindi Ka Mag Exercise Eeeee Bali Wala Itong Gamot O Sasama Pa Ang Pakiramdam ... What You Need Is Creatin...protein....and Exercise...
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Old October 5th, 2007, 04:43 PM   #19
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Doc, anong oras naman po maganda ibigay ang creatine, sa umaga ba or sa hapon? before or after feeding po ba?
Doc, in 7-10days u mention ng pgbibigay ng creatine ibig sabihin po ba eh 1 capsule/day in 7days or up to 10days?
salamat po!
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Old October 5th, 2007, 04:51 PM   #20
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pahabol lang po; pwede ba pagsabayin un dog food at creatine? ibig ko po sabihin eh kung nagbibigay ka ng creatin in 7days pwede ba isingit un dog food in every other day? saan sila maganda i-position, after or b4 feding sa hapon b or sa umaga? dapat ba sabay sila or sa umaga un isa at sa hapon naman un isa?
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Old October 6th, 2007, 03:40 AM   #21
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up ko lang po.......gusto ko rin malaman.......
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Old October 6th, 2007, 09:43 AM   #22
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thanks doc sa bgong kaalaman
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Old October 6th, 2007, 02:56 PM   #23
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Huwag lang gamitin kapag malapit na ang laban dahil mabigat ang katwan ng manok.Lumalakas ang inom nila ng tubig habang gamit ang creatine kaya matubig ang katawan nila at mabagal.
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Old October 6th, 2007, 03:03 PM   #24
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Huwag lang gamitin kapag malapit na ang laban dahil mabigat ang katwan ng manok.Lumalakas ang inom nila ng tubig habang gamit ang creatine kaya matubig ang katawan nila at mabagal.


Ser Lanipao, marami pong salamat sa dagdag kaalaman
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Old October 6th, 2007, 09:32 PM   #25
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nice thread....may isa naman tayung napupulot na magandang aral tungkol sa pag-aalag ng ating mga manok....maraming salamat mga kasabong...
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Old October 7th, 2007, 02:00 AM   #26
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Ang sinabi ni lanipao ay precisely correct.....Kaya nga hindi pwedeng ibigay ng more than 1 week ang creatine monohydrate dahil masyadong sumisikip ang hipo nila.
Mahirap maka-cut ang manok kung mahigpit ang hipo.
Maganda ito ibinibigay sa mga manok na may kakulangan ang lapad ng dibdib....pero kung punong-puno na ang hipo ng manok, hindi na dapat bigyan ng creatine ang manok kundi muscle-bound lang ang mangyayari.

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Old October 14th, 2007, 02:44 PM   #27
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Doc, as a substitutue of creatine, puede bang gamitin ang amino acid injectable or capsule form.... gaya ng muriamin... ok lng ba ito sa manok at paano ito gagamitin....
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 09:31 AM   #28
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Aminolyte or amino acid injectable ay isang protein supplement at ang epekto nito ay para sa pag-build up ng kanilang "musculature" at sa puntos na ito.... ay maaaring gamitin kapalit ng creatine.
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Doc Teddy, ask ko lang po kung pwede isabay un dog food sa pgbigay ng creatine?
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 12:47 AM   #30
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Doc teddy, ask ko lang po kung may sched kayong seminar sometime in june 2008? balak ko umatend or mag pa attend ng bata ko pag uwi ko by then.
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