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Old April 17th, 2007, 11:07 AM   #1
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nangangarayom/tumatakbong manok

doc ted, ask ko lang po. kasi yung isang manok ko na cross ng sweater at butcher ay parang ayaw lumaban ngayong 1 year na sya. maganda ang katawan. before nung bata palang sya 7-8 months napakatapang nilalaban lahat. pero ngaun pag binibitaw ko tumatakbo talaga eh.

ano po kaya ito? at ano po ang dapat kong gawin d2?

sana po ay mapayuhan nyo ako tungkol d2. salamat po doc.
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Old April 17th, 2007, 12:38 PM   #2
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Re: nangangarayom/tumatakbong manok

kung nangangarayum, lagyan mo nang sinulid jokejokejoke
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Old April 17th, 2007, 01:21 PM   #3
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kaibigan edd>payo ko eh wag mo na pag-aksayahan ng panahon yang manok na iyan or ipamigay mo na lang, marami ka pa naman yatang iba manok dyan...yung manok na tumatakbo sa bitaw or running condition ika nga eh mahirap yan kapag sa rueda nya ginawa ang pagtakbo dahil tyak kantyawan at malaking kahihiyan lang ang ibibigay syo ng manok na iyan
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Old April 19th, 2007, 02:50 AM   #4
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Re: nangangarayom/tumatakbong manok

ang maganda riyan ay adobohin mo na kaysa mapahiya ka sa rueda. lol
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Old April 19th, 2007, 05:09 AM   #5
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Dont lose hope. Mayroon din akong roundhead, erratic din ang tapang. Inabot ng 16 months bago tuluyang naglaban. Nilaban ko sa Marilao, gwapo at galing daw kay "idol" ng kalaban. Ayun, wakwak ang kilikili...ang sa akin halos walang sugat, nagurlisan lang sa mukha.

Kung kaya mo pang pagtiyagaan wait for a couple of months...pag di pa naglaban....kawali na.

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Old April 19th, 2007, 05:37 AM   #6
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Re: nangangarayom/tumatakbong manok

Ed,

There is time for everything, huwag mong pilitin kung ayaw pang maglaban....pagpinilit mo ang manok na ayaw maglaban, ikaw ang mahihirapan..baka matuluyan kang magpakulo ng tubig para makita mo siyang lumaban.
Patience is a virtue!!!
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Old April 19th, 2007, 07:49 AM   #7
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CULL
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Old April 19th, 2007, 07:50 AM   #8
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pag tumatakbo ang manok ilaban mo sa marathon.
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Old April 19th, 2007, 09:04 AM   #9
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thanks for the advice Daveqdimal, Karachi, etc.

i'll try to segregate it from others for the mean time and closely monitor the behavior.

for those who cannot give a serious response, don't waste time posting stupid comments like what Dyammin and Bak_dat_ass_up did. it only shows a character of an under educated person.
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Old April 19th, 2007, 11:24 AM   #10
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Re: nangangarayom/tumatakbong manok

sir ihiwalay mo muna sya at samahan mo lang muna ng pullet para enhance pagkalalake nya, maglalaban din yan, nasa tyaga rin yan.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 07:28 AM   #11
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makiraan lang mga bossing gud PM OR AM sa lahat, eddsantos nadala sa bitaw yan nokits mo bartolina mo ikulong mo sa drum o sa madilim na lugar ganyan tayo pag nag keep 3 days b4 the fyht nakakulong cya sa madilim na kulungan para tumapang lalo ang nokits ,try mo baka sakali makatulong GOD BLESS TO ALL
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Old April 20th, 2007, 08:39 AM   #12
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kaibigan edd>payo ko eh wag mo na pag-aksayahan ng panahon yang manok na iyan or ipamigay mo na lang, marami ka pa naman yatang iba manok dyan...yung manok na tumatakbo sa bitaw or running condition ika nga eh mahirap yan kapag sa rueda nya ginawa ang pagtakbo dahil tyak kantyawan at malaking kahihiyan lang ang ibibigay syo ng manok na iyan
sang ayon ako diyan na ang manok na tumatakbo ay for disposal na? wag ng ipamigay at baka takbuhan ang bagong may ari sa Rueda masisisi ka pa!...kung puro awa at panghihinayang ang paiiralin natin ay sagabal ito sa ating pag mo-move forward...ayaw nating may namamahay na takbuhin sa ating mga yards at farm...wag nang pag aksayahang palabasan ng palahi ito. opinyon ko lamang!
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Old April 20th, 2007, 09:32 AM   #13
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Dont lose hope. Mayroon din akong roundhead, erratic din ang tapang. Inabot ng 16 months bago tuluyang naglaban. Nilaban ko sa Marilao, gwapo at galing daw kay "idol" ng kalaban. Ayun, wakwak ang kilikili...ang sa akin halos walang sugat, nagurlisan lang sa mukha.

Kung kaya mo pang pagtiyagaan wait for a couple of months...pag di pa naglaban....kawali na.

Dave


Ang masama kapag nasugatan yan kaibigan, baka kumaripas ng takbo... We need game roosters not runners..

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Old April 20th, 2007, 09:35 AM   #14
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Ang masama kapag nasugatan baka mabasag pa ang salamin ng rueda sa lakas ng impact ng pagtakbo!!!! Joke joke joke!

ang tindi naman niyan! that'd be of what you call the hardhitter lines...mga explosive powercocks...yun nga lang in some other ways! sa akin cull kaagad yan!
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Old April 20th, 2007, 09:40 AM   #15
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Dalawa lang naman ang dapat natin selection procedure sa mga manok natin.... Either you MARK HIM or you KILL HIM...
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Old April 20th, 2007, 09:41 AM   #16
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Dalawa lang naman ang dapat natin selection procedure sa mga manok natin.... Either you MARK HIM or you KILL HIM...

agree!
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Old April 20th, 2007, 11:15 AM   #17
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Re: nangangarayom/tumatakbong manok

Ang maaaring dahilan ng pangangarayom ng isang manok ay due to wrong breeding or environmental factors gaya ng.....maling pag-hahandle o hindi siya comfortable sa kinalalagyan niya. Makakabuti na ilipat sa ibang pen na may kasamang inahin (1 month) para bumuo at manumbalik ang pagkalalake niya.
Maaaring nagka-traumatic experience ito noon sa bitaw kaya patandain mo na lang muna. Kung pag-katapos ng anim na buwan at wala parin siyang tapang, kailangan mo nang gumawa ng desisyon kung karapat-dapat pa ba siyang bigyan ng panahon.

Ang pangangarayom ay isang behavioral problem na dikanais-nais.. kaya dapat mong timbangin ang dahilan??? kung bakit mo siya dapat alagaan.

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Old April 20th, 2007, 07:12 PM   #18
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ok doc ted, thanks for the advice. i will do it. thanks again.

more power!!!
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Old December 19th, 2007, 10:09 PM   #19
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buhayin lang natin ito
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Old December 19th, 2007, 10:43 PM   #20
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Cockmate Ed,

Tama si Doc, bigyan mo ng chance manok mo then, kung sa tingin mo ay talagang wala improvement. Then, decide kung gusto mo pa siya pag-aksayahan ng panahon, pera at pangalan mo. Merry X'mas cockmates!

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Old December 20th, 2007, 12:10 AM   #21
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ibig mong sabihin nag bebenta nang korayum? DI KA NAG IISA.
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Old December 20th, 2007, 06:31 PM   #22
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behavior or games kasi ng manok nakasalalay sa health...kahit multiwinner nayan basta hindi maganda ang health status ng manok,,,yan kumakaripas ng takbo sa laban...pero once na bumalik na ang magandang katwan nyan tyak..tatapang din yan.....
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Old December 20th, 2007, 09:35 PM   #23
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Doc totoo po bang pwde ring dahilan eh maliit ang bayag nung manok?kasi my isang manok din ako dati 16-17n mths na ayaw pa ring lumaban...di naman nadala kasi nga di maibitaw...nasamahan ko na rin ng hen ng isang linggo wala pa rin po...
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Old December 20th, 2007, 10:18 PM   #24
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tanong mo cockmate ki haydol gwapito, sigurado alam nya kung ano gagawin dyan. hehehe. biro lang po haydol.
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Old December 20th, 2007, 10:47 PM   #25
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pasingit po!...ganyan din ang manok ko...lahat na ng paraan ginawa ko pero tumatakbo pa rin...kaya hayun sinubuan ko na ng laurel at paminta.
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Old December 21st, 2007, 12:40 AM   #26
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Doc totoo po bang pwde ring dahilan eh maliit ang bayag nung manok?kasi my isang manok din ako dati 16-17n mths na ayaw pa ring lumaban...di naman nadala kasi nga di maibitaw...nasamahan ko na rin ng hen ng isang linggo wala pa rin po...
dats unusual pare, nice info.
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Old December 25th, 2007, 01:35 PM   #27
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merry christmas to all
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Old January 14th, 2008, 05:47 PM   #28
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update lang, inilaban ko itong manok na subject ng thread sa pampanga last sunday lang. fortunately nanalo at walang sugat.

thanks doc for the advice.....
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Old January 16th, 2008, 09:58 PM   #29
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cockmates! happy new year to all!!(belated).

matalino ang nokis mo na may ganyang attitude, ayaw pa palaban kaya kailangan
ng isang breeder dapat may mahabang pisi ng pasensya, darating din ang araw na
manlalaban cla, katulad nating mga cockers na umaasang balang araw yayaman din
tayo sa pamamagitan nila!

bro, advice ko sa u pampatapang kung meron panag katulad ng nokis u bigyan u ng VIGOREX, pag di pa tumapang tuwing umaga ihian mo sa mukha cgurado ako di ka nya malilimutan!

To all cockers and to doc tj's Gud luck sa ating lahat!

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Old January 19th, 2008, 02:55 PM   #30
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Re: nangangarayom/tumatakbong manok

edd kung marami kang manok wag mo ng pag aksayaan ng panahon ang isang iyan kung sa wla nga tari nangangarayom na papaano kung pag dating sa rueda iwan ka masisira lang ang record di ba.
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