Hi,

Anyone know what black family Jorge Torres uses? I heard it was Black McRae. Can anyone confirm?

And any info on him would be nice too. He just came out of nowhere with these blacks. 3 years ago, I never heard that name.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[Kidd Sentencia]

also, I've been seeing some dark, very dark, legged reds that shuffles "faster than an UZI machine gun auto blasts." I mean one long fast shuffles that don't require a second round as you know what would have happened. These cocks are news to me...any posts?

Kidd

[Camarines]

JC,

I think J.T. lives in Ontario, CA. Dial area code (909) 555-1212 for long distance directory assistance.

[fmgomez]

:rbounce:
I am not sure if you are talking about the same guy, but if it is the same J. Torres that I have heard of, he uses alot of Gene Batias bloodline. Don't know necessarily about the black birds, but he has shown some outstanding sweater blood from Gene down at Sunset with great success.
Mike

[rhandy]

He's only 3 miles away from my house. I think ATU gamefarm of Davao bred some of his fowl.

heard those blacks come from hawaii

[jojo_c]

pards if no luck ask those merchant at marketplace they might know:hombre:

[bamablack]

Sir,

If you are referring to Jorge that fights at sunset. The Black roosters that he is fighting are the old frank ellis brownred lines. Mr. Torres gave 10,000 dollars for the brownreds after joe mac fought them at sunset and won the debry. He then had Jackie Rogers of Geraldine Alabama breed and supply him the brownreds each year. These Brownreds are outstanding fowl that can fight in the long knife. Fast as lighting and can break to the lights. Mr. Torres fought a show of them at sunset crossed on asils in the short knife and won 6-1 a couple of years ago. I also know that Jackie raised a couple hundred of the brownreds and some had a 1/4 asil in them. I obtained both my asils and brownreds from Jackie Rogers of Geraldine alabama. This is the story behind the brownreds. If you have any questions, please email me at baby35771@yahoo.com.
Sincerely,
Darryl Yates (John 3:16)
2070 county road 92
Rainsville, Alabama 35986
phone 1-256-638-2645

[spangle]

I am 98% sure that those blacks came from Troy Dale Potter of VA!!


Spangle

[edwardslasher]

Bamablack is 100% right. George Torres Blacks are the Old Frank Ellis Brownreds lines. I personally know George here in California. He is the Big time promoter here in our area when it comes to Derby. He is a real nice guy as oppose to some other people think about him. I too, have obtained that Frank Ellis Brownreds thru the kindness of "BAMABLACK" in Alabama. Thank you, Mr. Yates.


Edwardslasher of " BOSSANTI GAMEFARM" SAN FABIAN PANGASINAN:hat:

I am wondering if he was using the same blacks back in Quartsite , AZ, he labeled them as Show Time. Those were awesome cutters. Otherwise I have known him always using good lines at late he was using Sweaters from Jean.

Cassidhee and Ogie
Oxnard, CA

[jojo_c]

black mcrae bloodline? mel simms has this bloodline very fast bird:hombre:

[edkiang]

Ironhead Blacks.

[EAA Indians]

If you have been around the Southern California Cocking sport for years, we have two JT's. JT mata (tantalizing eyes) is the Kabalen from Pampanga and JT balbas (bushy beard) is the Caviteneo. Both of them are very good people. Sometimes, we joke around and we call them the good and the bad but not ugly.

JT mata is one of the premier cockers not only in California and Arizona but also down Louisanna and Oklahoma. JT commutes to and from S. Calif. and Louisiana-Mississippi.

JT mata has the excellent Blacks and one of the best White Clarets. He has several breeds and most of all, JT mata is a very talented evaluator of cocks.

[mauricir]

So, who is Paul Fassoth from Southern Cal?

[EAA Indians]

During the Copperstate years, PF was one of the biggest supporters of the sport until Arizona voted against it. But before the end of legal C in Arizona, PF ran the Quartzsite Pit a few miles from Copperstate and he made it worth our weekend there and his wife and family served one of the best Filipino foods in the West. PF is still around doing a little here and there. Lastly, if you wanted to have a Main and at what amounts of bets, you called PF and he arranged it. He was also a very good handler (until he got hurt) and a good referee too. Of course, he is another Kabalen who is a diehard Sabongero like his Kabalen friends: JT, Romy A and Big Money Mando.