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Old May 26th, 2003, 09:08 PM   #1
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Dag-dag Kaalaman

TO ALL COCKMEYT-- para sa ating lahat ito, baka may nalalaman kayong strain ng mga fighting cock, yun bang mga lahi nito na pag binanggit ay sabay bigay na rin ng hitsura , timplada,istilo o sa madaling salita ay ng pangkalahatang kabuuan, malaking tulong kasi ito sa mga baguhan upang maaninag nila ang bawat lahi at kung paano ito ginawa, ............ syempre umpisahan kona pero kurot lang,


*LEMON-- yellow /white/green legged. red in color ,straight or pea comb.(intelegent bird) heady)..

TIMPLADA---- hatch x claret x butcher..

* GREEN LEGGED HATCH ( blue face)-------- green legged, red in color, straight comb, (deep game)

TIMPLADA------ whitehackle x brownred.

o sundan na ninyo ako na bahala
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Old May 27th, 2003, 12:44 AM   #2
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hi mr ramos dag-dag kaesipan sa nais magpalahi ituy subok na

1.kelso - mcclanahan compose of rhx claret ,, tapos mate to murphy mate again to albany
2. clippers - claret x to albany
3.sweater - kelso timplada x 1/4 ylh
4 ibat-ibat lahing ng 4 way x ng grey
5. gayundin ang lahing yellow leeg hatch 4way ,,, at iba pang lahi . sa matagal na panahon no pure today ,,, ano man ganda ng konbinasyon ng x needs winning line o , solid ito para tayo makagawa ng sariling lahi less time. puro tayo galing kay kuwan kano ...sabi ng mga pinoy nadito na sa pinas ang materiales
6. itong si sonny lagon i believe he did x kaya ang sweater niya ay stlylish good examlpe succesful new pinoy breeder
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Old May 27th, 2003, 10:10 AM   #3
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**DOC ROBINSON---- GREEN/BLUELEGS, STTRAIGHT/PEACOMB. red in color, multiple shufflers, agresive(PINAKABOBO RAW NA HATCH)

TIMPLADA NITO-------ray hoskin x clarencesteward.

**DEMOCCRAT------- white/yellow legged, w/ blk.spur, ( wise, intelegent bird, stylish)

TIMPLADA NITO---------5/8 Mclean x 3/8 griffin claret.

**zamboanga black-------- dark legged,straight comb,( alimbuyugin)pulang sunog, speed, shufflers

TIMPLADA------- black mcrae x lemon x butcher.

**BUTCHER----- red in color, straight comb, deep game, power/speed. white/yellow legged.

TIMPLADA --------- 1/2 white hackle x 1/2 speedy greys.

**ALBANY-------- RED IN COLOR, white/yellow legged, pea/straight comb, flyer,game.

TIMPLADA------ BOSTON ROUNDHEAD X KEARNEY WHITEHACKLE.


**RADIO-------- RED IN COLOR, WHITE/YELLOW LEGGED, straight comb, speed/power/flyer/deadgame.

TIMPLADA----- MURPHY X WHITE HACKLE.

*** BOLES------- RED / BLACK IN COLOR.,peacomb, yellow/dark legged. deep game ,accurate cutter,

TIMPLADA---------WAR HORSE X SID X SPANISH X ASIL GHANS.




MARAMI PA YAN KAYO NAMAN , AMBAG KAYO NG ALAM NYO
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Old May 27th, 2003, 11:31 AM   #4
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eto po naman ang ambag ko bilang dagdag kaalaman din na napulot ko rin dito sa site na ito hehehe...

klasipikasiyon ng lahi ng manok ayon sa kulay ng paa:

dark fowls (black legged):
brownred
black bonanza
black traveller
sid taylor
mcrea
nigger roundhead
muffs
indian asil

yellow legged:
kelso
ylh
sweater
lemon
allen rh
boston rh
duke hulsey lemon
mclean hatch
mcclanahan

white legged:
claret
butcher
roundhead
kelso
lacy rh

green/blue legged:
mclean
blueface hatch
grey (red fox)

green legged:
duke hulsey lemon
gilmore hatch
givens hatch
mclean hatch

klasipikasiyon naman ng lahi ng manok ayon sa hugis ng palong:
peacomb:
mclean hatch
roundhead
sweater
ylh
kelso (some are straight comb)
lemon (some are stright comb)

straight comb:
claret
butcher
brown red
regular grey
kelso
lemon

hindi 100% 'to pero puede na nating gawing basehan kung hindi natin alam ang lahi ng manokis kagaya sa katulad ko na bumibili ng mga panabong sa bayong hehehe...

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Old May 27th, 2003, 11:59 AM   #5
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PALATASTAS:

Maraming salamat sa iyo Mr. Rolly Ramos at nakadalo ako sa fiesta nyo last May 24.

IT WAS A PLEASURE MEETING YOU GUYS!!!

Mr. Greg Ayroso and his lovely wife.
Mr. Philip Neri "the majestic"
Mr. Ronnie Pulido "Capt. De Sagun Gamefowl Lover"
Represenetatives of Excellence Gamefowl Specialist. Sana may libreng gamot.....heheheheh

Sayang Emoy was not able to make it. he was out of town daw.

To your wife, many thank for the warm hospitality.

Higit sa lahat, di completo pag walang manokis...hehehe
maraming salamat sa mga original dink fair and bruce barnette sweaters hens at pinagbigyan mo ko sa presyong kaibigan.

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Old May 27th, 2003, 12:00 PM   #6
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hatch x ostrich - big game chicken

timplada = konting asin, vetsin at luya.

joke laang.

ka rolly,
bakit ang post mo may mahabang blank space bago mag end.
meron ka bang hiling(dagdag na space) sa bawat post?
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Old May 27th, 2003, 12:04 PM   #7
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Ano timplada ng boston roundhead? Ano ba pinagkaiba nito sa lacy roundhead?

maraming salamat po.
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Old May 27th, 2003, 03:07 PM   #8
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boston roundhead - yellow legged
lacy roundhead - white legged
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Old May 27th, 2003, 07:01 PM   #9
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tanong lng po......

lahat po ba ng rounhead peacomb lng,?????

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Old May 27th, 2003, 07:11 PM   #10
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Jayp...

PRE, Siguro may Roundhead ka, pero straight comb.hahaha.....

Palitan mo nalang ng pangalan yan:lol: gawin mong Claret:lol:

Joke only.....
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Old May 27th, 2003, 07:12 PM   #11
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LA CONCORDIA

PRE pasensya na di ko alam kung paano nangyayari na mahabang blangko ang post ko, pasensya na kayo.

*** mitra 56(hiraw) 1/2 black boles -1/2squacky crow. accurate cutter, angat,one-two punches.

**shamo japs------ black, great cutting talent,fastest cutter in the world(bar none).extremly game


**alll roundhead contain 1/16 oriental blood. white/yellow legged, peacomb, red in color.vertical lift.


**CLARET------ white leg. red/white in color straight comb, excelent cutter, flyer, strapper. contain 3/4 whitehackle blood.
kaya pag nag pares ka ng claret x whitehackle , ang anak nito 7/8 na ng whitehackle blood, tama ba ?

o marami pa yan baka meron kayo para satin lahat ito.
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Old May 27th, 2003, 07:31 PM   #12
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:lol: Sir... ang haba ng blangko :lol: baka magkaroon ng intriga yan.hahaha.... parang pagdating sa huli sabay sabi "BULAGA" hehehe..... buti na lang "PEACE" ang nakalagay.


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Old May 27th, 2003, 07:55 PM   #13
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hehehe

hingi uli paumanhin sa inyo, pasensya na, haba blangko, ewan ko ba kung bakit, bopol pa kasi sa computer e:lol:

bilang ganti bunyag ko nalang limang orihinal na lahi na siyang pinag kunan ng mga panabong ngayon ,.

*unang una -----(W H I T E H A C K L E)
at heto ang ibat ibang white hackle ngayon

*MURPHY
*MORGAN
*LOWMAN
*KEARNEY
*GLEEZENS
*GILKERSON
*NORT BRITONS

BUKAS NA PANGALAWANG ORIHINAL NA LAHI he hehe para suspeng:hippie:
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Old May 27th, 2003, 11:44 PM   #14
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heto bahagi ko sa dag dag kaalaman, ang shamo at asil ay mag kaiba.hindi sila parehong oriental, asil are ground fighter,shamo are flyer,asil need lower points, shamo need higher point, asil are poor layer, shamo are good layer,shamo can take a lot of cold weather, asil love the hot weather.the shamo had the reach and height advantage if you match over to asil (same lbs.)

the best shamo is the coal black KOYAMA japs,with legs like iron and spurs that are 3/4 of an inch thick.they can smash a cocks skull and break his neck in one buckle
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Old May 28th, 2003, 02:16 AM   #15
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asilman puede ka rin palang shamoman hehehe... salamat sa mga dagdag kaalaman... dami kong natututunan sa inyo...:blush:
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Old May 28th, 2003, 10:15 AM   #16
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roundhead

for the sake of argument, ang allen roundhead ay 100% straight comb, kaya meron ding roundhead na straight comb kaya lang bihirang bihira lang ang merong ganitong linyada.
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Old May 28th, 2003, 10:37 AM   #17
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How about the cuban cocks?

Anyone would like to share?

Yun hachet na ginamit ni Roger Roberts sa WSD 2003 mayroon daw bloodline na nito? Sobrang galing.
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Old May 28th, 2003, 11:18 AM   #18
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PANGALAWA

PANGALAWANG ORIHINAL NA LAHI------
B R O W N R E D** itim at alimbuyugin ang kulay .dark legged. red/black/chestnut ang kulay ng mata, agresibo, mabilis ,power, multiple shufflers,grounder,medyo kulang sa gameness.

--------heto ang mga pangalang lahi ng mga brownred------
*WINGATE
*ROY GRAY
*SMOKEY WALLACE
*MEL SIMS
*RACEY MUGS
*SID TAYLOR
*MC RAE
*BONANZA
*JOE SPARKS

ok bukas uli ang pangatlong orihinal na lahi, pasok muna kayo ng ambag ninyo,
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Old May 28th, 2003, 11:22 AM   #19
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sorry sira ata computer ko pasensya na, lagi may blangko.

MR.moderator baka naman pwedeng ma alis ang mahabang blangko paki na lang pls. salamat po
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Old May 28th, 2003, 12:04 PM   #20
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preng Rolly,

a very good idea to, talagang dagdag kaalaman para
sa mga baguhan (tulad ko) saludos for puting this up.

kay emoy man mga sangkap at sarisaring uri ng kape.

bukas ako magdadagdag, tungkol sa successful CHETS.
marami tong istorya at pinagtatalunan ng mga sumulat sa
gamefowl magazines kung kaninong istorya ang tama.

Si Roger Roberts ang huling sucessful na nagbreed nito
in crossing with his Hatch, as Hatchets, HATCH x CHETS.
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Old May 28th, 2003, 12:56 PM   #21
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PULA>....

pareng PULA...

FYI...


pre...kaya ko lng tinatanong kc...nung pinares ko ang black bonanza ko sa lacyRH ko e...may lumabas na 3 staraightcomb...kaya ko tinatanong kc...bka mamaya...e...mali ang manok na nagamit ko!!!!!!!!!!!:wink2:


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Old May 28th, 2003, 01:12 PM   #22
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Pareng Jayp....ganon ba! kala ko kasi:sprcool:

Sir Talahib747,

Sir, pwede po bang malaman namin kong papano o ano ang kombenasyon ng Allen Roundhead, Boston Roundhed at Lacy Roundhead... kasi po sa tingin ko sa'yo kabisado mo itong mga Roundhead.

Maraming salamat...


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Old May 28th, 2003, 01:41 PM   #23
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yung allen roundhead mababasa mo ang history nito sa pitmaster.com punta ka sa history of gamefowl strains. yung lacy roundhead naman ay punta ka sa sabong.com.ph nakalagay dun ang history ng lacy roundhead ni judge lacy. ang boston roundhead naman ay hindi ko pa nabasa ang kanilang origin. pero try mo sa gamefowl.net baka meron dun akong nakaligtaan. sa pagkakaalam ko ang lacy roundhead ay product ng boston roundhead, na-infusan lang ng ibang dugo kung kayat naiba ang kulay ng paa pero paminsan-minsan may throwback na yellow legs ang lacy roundhead dahil siguro sa dugo nitong boston roundhead.

yung allen roundhead ang originator nya ay madamot maglabas ng palahi nya kung kayat bihira ang meron nitong gantong klaseng roundhead pati nga ako naku-curious sa lahi nito dahil kakaiba sa kanyang mga relatives.

kung mabibreakdown ni rolly ito ay mas maganda baka sakaling makagawa ng sariling timpla ng kape.
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Old May 28th, 2003, 07:45 PM   #24
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pangatlong orihinal na lahi

ang pangatlong orihinal na lahi ay WHITE/ PUTI--------nabuo o binuo ito isang daan taon ang nakaraan, sa kadahilang sa likod ng nakalipas na isang daan taon ay walang matapang na manok na kulay puti, ang puting manok ay ginagamit lang pang katay/ pang alay /at padugo sa mga ritwal. pag dating sa kulay na puti ay wag ninyo akong asahan dahil WHITE LEGHORN lang ang mai aambag ko,

kayo na ang mag ambag ng mga linyadang puti.para sa ikatlong orihinal na strain.:hippie:
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Old May 28th, 2003, 09:38 PM   #25
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Question

Just wondering..I thought "roundheads", as i've come across my readings about history of gamestrains, was a synonym used in reference to all strains of gamefowls that has peacomb--because if you'll observe most peacombs has a more "rounded" head appearance.
No offense intended also, but i thought "Asil" is synonymous to "oriental gamefowl" strains if i'm not mistaken..hense there's Jap, Indian, Shamo and Sumatra's all refered to as 'Asils'.

The original Albany's originated from upstate New York. the original Albanys was straight combed, red, pearl legged fowls. They are a favorite among gaff breeders primarily for their "bittergameness", 'heart' as reffered to. As pure they were described as "useless" in any heel(weapon), due to their poor fighting style. So what ever attributes we see on the 'Albanys' of today is a reflection of what the breeder has infused to create his strain.:hippie:
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Old May 28th, 2003, 10:57 PM   #26
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pinaka popular na breed

ang pamilyang --HATCH-- ang pinaka popular na lahi o palahi ang gumawa ng linyadang ito ay si MR. E. SANFORD HATCH
ito ay kumbinasyon ng WHITE HACKLE AT BROWN RED
ang pinakaunang hatch ay ang --CALIFORNIA HATCH---green legged, straight combs,

ngayon narito ang ibat ibang pamilya ng lahing ito na bagamat iba iba ang hitsura ay tinatawag pa ring HATCH.
(green legged hatch)(straight comb)

*BLUEFACE---- red richard son,, billy ruble,, percy flower,,, sila ang pamilya ng blue face hatch.
*SANDY HATCH
*PERRY HATCH
*HEEINIE MATHESIUS

HATCH PEACOMB FAMILY (green legged)
*mclean
*doc robinson
*jack walton
*leiper
*gilmore
*riverview
*cecil

YELLOW LEG HATCH
*oakgrove
*ray hoskin
*dink fair
*B.barnette
*sweater mc guinnis
* blackwater
note; ang HATCH ay hindi kabilang sa orihinal na lahi produkto sila ng mga crosses
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dagdag kaalaman nga to.....
ngayon may matatawag na akong lahi sa mga nabili kong manokbayong.:lol: :lol:

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**CHETS --- RundheadxRedquillxButcherxMortgage lifter cock
on Tuzo JapxBrownred hen (Ed Flynt version)

the stags of this mating wins 4-20 times
stag called peanut wins 20 times

green legged, peacomb and brownred greyish color

Originated by Al Ashton to Chet Robinson

Still breeding chets.

Roger Roberts - HATCHET in Georgia
Wayne Mayfield - SUPER M GFarm, Silverton TX
S Clark - CIRCLE C Farm , Aumsville OR

(Probably Eddie Araneta has some stock from Roger)
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pangatlong orihinal na lahi.

PUTI

Mating of an Asil/shamo x white leghorn x Texas fowl will result a deadly battlecross fowl with a WHITE in color,Yellow legged and Peacomb:lol: tama na siguro yong 100 yrs.hehehe....

Mga na buong lahi :

White Kelso ( yellow legged,peacomb )
Zamboanga White ( yellow legged,peacomb )
madami pa.... white+pangalan ng breeder.hehehe.....

imahinasyon ko lang ha! :lol:
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Old May 29th, 2003, 06:19 PM   #30
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anong linyada ang kay san pedro....

white feather,white earlobe,straigth comb,green legged,short crower and medium station.


hatch fowl....bred by judge leiper for e.s.hatch.

timplada - kearney whitehackle and kearney brownred.

witch doctor...cecil perkins

timplada-bill shaffer mugs.

redquill...eslins brother

timplada- 3/4 quill/1/4 redhorse.

black and tans

timplada-redquill/redhorse
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