pusta (the Biggest Bet) combined

April 23rd, 2003, 07:56 AM

sinong may pinakamalaking pusta sa maski saang sabungan sa buong mundo? nakita ko sa isang tape ng sabong na ang pustahan noon sa sabungan sa cebu na umabot ng tig 4-5 million bet sa mga taga palawan and cebu.

Ad Infinitum · April 23rd, 2003, 11:48 AM

Wow, 4-5 million!

Personally, ang nakita kong pinaka malaking pusta ay P2.2M ng Saranggani (Chiongbian). Pero sigurado akong maraming mas malaki doon, tulad ng nakita ni foreverchamp.

BullBred · April 26th, 2003, 10:47 AM

I saw the post on what was the most spent on gamefowl and I thought to myself, what is the biggest center bet you ever witnessed. Personally, I've seen 2 fights that were fought for $20,000 each in Hawaii and also one that was for $90,000. This is in US Dollars. I've also seen outreageous amounts on Philippine videos. What was the biggest wager you ever witnessed?

BrilleSeeker · April 26th, 2003, 06:21 PM

The Biggest Bet!

WSD 1989, Chavit Singson vs Boy Primallion. PP 1, 100,000.00 against PP 330,000.00, the difference nilarga ni Mayor Dalipe and Sir Atong A. wala pang WSD footage at that time. Nanalo si Singson!

spangle · April 27th, 2003, 07:20 AM

Manila group led by Vic Yu wagered 1.1 M for their entry against 110 T of a Bacolod cocker which I can no longer remember. William Chiongbian made the sahod and added another 1.5 M. The "dehado" won and all Mr. Chiongbian said was..."wala pa man mohubas ang dagat", meaning the sea has not dried out, referring to his shipping industry business William Lines now WG&A. Sabagay!!!

Spangle

April 27th, 2003, 10:13 AM

I remember Mr.Dee of Agusan bet 2M at Capricorn Col.

POPEYE

Salto · April 27th, 2003, 06:17 PM

I remember Patick Antonio betting 1M, his entry name was Sagupaan SuperFeeds I, II, III against a Bacolod entry Skylab betting 120T.........Bacolod entry won that game....

peatree · April 27th, 2003, 08:59 PM

Wow din!

April 27th, 2003, 11:53 PM

in English...

Is gambling aspect of cockfighting popular only in the Philippines, or in other countries, too?

It seems to me like in RP, the bets are kind of big, even for the small time derbies... what about in the US, Guam, Puerto Rico, Peru, etc. What kind and amount of betting is involved?

Ad Infinitum · April 28th, 2003, 12:15 AM

BrilleSeeker, I believe I saw that fight as well. I believe Chavit Singson's entry name at that time was "Northerners" if I am not mistaken. Panalo nga siya but it was not an easy win.

bulikis · April 28th, 2003, 05:52 PM

WSD (2001 or 2002? . . . basta noong mag-champion ang Winslet ni D. Lim). nalimutan ko ang names ng competing entries. ang pusta ay 1.1M vs. 33T. wala pa sa plasada ng llamado ang pusta ng dehado. nalimutan ko rin kung sino ang nanalo . . .

mukhang napakalimutin ko na yata ah . . . tsk tsk

April 28th, 2003, 07:17 PM

Bulikis, panay kasi kain mo nang korean bug....hehehhee...beero lang.....

April 29th, 2003, 09:37 AM

Ang bet ba na pinag uusapan dito ay single bet ng isang tao or combine bet with others. Kung single bet lang ang pag uusapan ang alam ko si Asiong Sioson ng Bataan pumupusta ng over a million noon yan nag iisa lang siya noon, mga bata lang nya na nagdadala ng mga kulungan ang kasama nya nun at nakabayong pa kung dalhin ang manok nya sa sabungan, siya pa mismo ang nagtatari at bumibitaw ng manok.

Sentenciador · April 29th, 2003, 08:20 PM

gerry,

They bet big also in the US. Not as much as Filipinos. But it can get to the thousands of dollars per fight. Mexico bets big too (they are similar to Pinoys

)

Cheers!

Anyone else? Guam, Hawaii, Malaysia??

Sentenciador · April 30th, 2003, 10:59 AM

Might as well mention it,

Cubans (Wherever they are in the world) Play $2,000 fights. MINIMUM. Naked Heel.

Since, we're talking gambling, I guess I can speak...

Big BETS on COCKFIGHTS! Gamefowl breeding and Cockfighting will always be there. ALWAYS! And betting, is always a part of it...

Saw a picture of a Brazilian farm in Gamecock magzine... The place was protected by guard towers and M-60 machine guns...

It's a big deal!

Sorry for blabbing, but that's the way it is

Thanks.

cesario · April 30th, 2003, 01:44 PM

leo dee ng agusan, 1,320 m vs. atong ang ng manila 33t. panalo ang llamado, 1994 cebu derby

swallow · May 1st, 2003, 02:54 PM

I have heard a lot of big bets but when it comes to consistency i think nobody beat the guts of Danny Pe. He used the ZW during his time and was the reason behind the price of the ZW birds. Danny Pe bets a minimum P110K in the pit until this time, but during his heydays he would always have it open parada, to the point that his money would be on "logro" on top of the center ring, and together with him is a secretary/accountant that records all the money bets and at what logro. He usually won. Lately, he fights a lot in Dampalit, malabon and as usual it danny Pe against the whole pit, when his bird losses you can feel the whole pit shake as if an earthquake has just take place.

Nobody can beat the guts of this man...

dong1967 · May 1st, 2003, 09:30 PM

guys the person youre mentioning on the board MR. LEO DEE is actually MR. LEO DY a known big bettor in BUTUAN CITY he owns DY TEBAN HARDWARE which according to sources earns about million pesos per day. i recall last may of 1994 BUTUAN town fiesta derby my fathers bird pits agaisnts his, our parada was 22k only and his birds parada was open bet....the result patay.... yung manok namin di nakasugat .nakantyawan pa kami habang tinatari-an yung manok namin...sabi ng handler nila mukha daw taga barrio manok namin. hehheehhe talo na nga kantyawan pa.ang lugro? 10- 6 lang naman.

dong1967

Ad Infinitum · May 2nd, 2003, 04:27 AM

swallow, si danny pe ba ay related kay jun pe? kasi si jun pe gumagamit din ng zamboanga fowl. favorite bet niya per sultada: P77,000.

BHOK · May 2nd, 2003, 11:51 AM

I've seen Danny Pe several times in Laloma. Yes, his normal center bet was 110k, aside from his outside bet.

I believed he has one of the best birds I have seen in a hackfights. And his winning percentage is high,(ako rin,hehhe,syempre dun tayo sa lamang pupusta,,heheh)

He and his handlers were good in matchmaking. That is probably the reason why they win a lot in hackfights.

Cheers

swallow · May 3rd, 2003, 02:23 PM

Ad infinitum,

Don't really know if related sila but i agree that Jun Pe also uses zamboanga fowl.

Bhok,

Danny Pe pays big money for good quality fowls, that is why he also bets big, not to mention that he has that gambler's guts. Lumalaban yan ng ubusan...hehehe, another additional info about DP is that he just happen to be the first entry i heard na nagpwera ng laban in a derby becoz hindi nakasa yung 110K nya, binibigyan lang sya ng 11K...hehehe

BHOK · May 4th, 2003, 12:53 PM

My Mistake,

It should be.......

One of the reason why he wins a lot in hackfights.

Yes, Swallow, your right, he pays big money to acquire a quality fowls.

Im just curious, is he also participating in bigtime derbies such as WSD,UCAP Derbies,etc....If so, what is his entry name?

May 11th, 2003, 12:22 PM

Fchamp,

I saw a fight against two buliks here in Sydney, Australia ang pusta was $41,000. The Loser tumakbo.... aray ko ang sakit. Next fight an Old Filipino Man bet $17,000 on his rooster...he won in the drag after 40 minutes.....Ruble hatch daw 5 time winner kaya 1 year na savings niya pinusta sa manok......kakatakot..muntik nang matalo.

YFIS
Junior

dvaleros · May 12th, 2003, 12:12 AM

Being in the Miltary and traveling the world, I have seen fights from Guam, Hawaii, U.S and the Philippines. In the states the biggest bet I have seen is approximately $10,000, Hawaii is about $25,000 and the rooster was a B or C rated bird, Guam about $3000 and not worth anymore and the philippines, P1.2 million which is about $24,000 at a consistent rate. by far the birds of RP and the Mainland U.S are very tough and I would be sheddin off water weight if I were to bet that much. In San Manuel Cockpit, Isabela, the bets were ave. about P200,000=$4000U.S or so. Of course, around Batangas and Manila a lot higher. I plan on attending some derbies in Cebu in the Future

Just putting my 2 cents in

FIS

Dwight V
French Camp Game Farm

May 12th, 2003, 12:34 AM

the largest center bet i've witnessed was made by atong ang at the san juan, sometime in 1992, just a few fights after a bird he handled was badly whipped by its opponent and lost around 500K. His initial bet was 1M, but mayor jessie viceo was given the microphone by the pit manager so he could square the bet - obviously a member of his circle owns the cock atong's bird is up against.
teasing, mayor viceo asked atong: "wala na ba?" atong obliged and said he was wagering another million. A few seconds later mayor viceo squared the bet and there was applause in the arena that incidentally was managed by atong at that time.
matapos ang pre-game preparations, binitiwan ang mga ibon. lipad ng mataas ang ke atong, at mas matagal pa siguro ang nagiging panghihingi ni mayor viceo ng pusta sa laban. ang resulta, si atong nakabawi sobra-sobra pa.

bvhal331 · January 17th, 2004, 06:06 AM

Which international derbies does biggest bets normally and usually occurs? WSD, Candellaria or in Roligon?

January 20th, 2004, 09:20 PM

At present the sabungero who wages big center bet is Gerry Ramos. Last year 2003 WSD, he waged P1.1 million naikasa ni Calvo, di ko na lang matandaan kung sino ang nanalo. 2nd fight, he waged P1.6 million.

Last Monday in 2004 WSD, wala akong alam na in millions na center bet.

j_capul · January 20th, 2004, 10:36 PM

nde ba 1.3 M daw ang parada nung kay idol patrick kagabi na sya mismo ang nag bitaw na hinde man lang nakasugat? tsk tsk tsk. kung tutuo yun, 1.3M walang kalaban laban dahil pilay tari agad sya.

March 21st, 2006, 07:31 AM

Update:

ang pinakamalaking nasaksihan ko ay yung laban ng candelaria last year between Patrick Antonio and Jesry Palmares.
$2.2 million ang pusta at nadehado si idol dito. ang resulta ng fight nailampaso ni JP si PA medyo malas kasi dahil napilay kaagad ang kay PA kayat maagang nasibak. ang proof nito ay yung Video na produce ng AD3 nila Al Delicana.

March 21st, 2006, 07:46 AM

Dollar?

April 23rd, 2003, 07:56 AM	#1
foreverchamp Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	pusta sinong may pinakamalaking pusta sa maski saang sabungan sa buong mundo? nakita ko sa isang tape ng sabong na ang pustahan noon sa sabungan sa cebu na umabot ng tig 4-5 million bet sa mga taga palawan and cebu.

April 26th, 2003, 10:47 AM	#3
BullBred Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tagudin, Ilocos Sur Posts: 91 Posts: 91 vCash: 500	The Biggest BET! I saw the post on what was the most spent on gamefowl and I thought to myself, what is the biggest center bet you ever witnessed. Personally, I've seen 2 fights that were fought for $20,000 each in Hawaii and also one that was for $90,000. This is in US Dollars. I've also seen outreageous amounts on Philippine videos. What was the biggest wager you ever witnessed?

April 27th, 2003, 07:20 AM	#5
spangle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 566 Posts: 566 vCash: 500	1994 TYC 6M 6 Cock Derby Manila group led by Vic Yu wagered 1.1 M for their entry against 110 T of a Bacolod cocker which I can no longer remember. William Chiongbian made the sahod and added another 1.5 M. The "dehado" won and all Mr. Chiongbian said was..."wala pa man mohubas ang dagat", meaning the sea has not dried out, referring to his shipping industry business William Lines now WG&A. Sabagay!!! Spangle

April 27th, 2003, 06:17 PM	#7
Salto Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Land of the Rising Sun Posts: 944 Posts: 944 vCash: 500	Cebu TYC 5.5M I remember Patick Antonio betting 1M, his entry name was Sagupaan SuperFeeds I, II, III against a Bacolod entry Skylab betting 120T.........Bacolod entry won that game....

April 29th, 2003, 09:37 AM	#13
Brown Pinoy Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	Tanong Lang Po Ang bet ba na pinag uusapan dito ay single bet ng isang tao or combine bet with others. Kung single bet lang ang pag uusapan ang alam ko si Asiong Sioson ng Bataan pumupusta ng over a million noon yan nag iisa lang siya noon, mga bata lang nya na nagdadala ng mga kulungan ang kasama nya nun at nakabayong pa kung dalhin ang manok nya sa sabungan, siya pa mismo ang nagtatari at bumibitaw ng manok.

April 23rd, 2003, 11:48 AM	#2
Ad Infinitum Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 95 Posts: 95 vCash: 500	Wow, 4-5 million! Personally, ang nakita kong pinaka malaking pusta ay P2.2M ng Saranggani (Chiongbian). Pero sigurado akong maraming mas malaki doon, tulad ng nakita ni foreverchamp.

April 26th, 2003, 06:21 PM	#4
BrilleSeeker Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: France Posts: 224 Posts: 224 vCash: 500	The Biggest Bet! WSD 1989, Chavit Singson vs Boy Primallion. PP 1, 100,000.00 against PP 330,000.00, the difference nilarga ni Mayor Dalipe and Sir Atong A. wala pang WSD footage at that time. Nanalo si Singson!

April 27th, 2003, 10:13 AM	#6
ocratsira Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	I remember Mr.Dee of Agusan bet 2M at Capricorn Col. POPEYE

April 27th, 2003, 08:59 PM	#8
peatree Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 373 Posts: 373 vCash: 500	Wow din!

April 27th, 2003, 11:53 PM	#9
sabongwebs Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	in English... Is gambling aspect of cockfighting popular only in the Philippines, or in other countries, too? It seems to me like in RP, the bets are kind of big, even for the small time derbies... what about in the US, Guam, Puerto Rico, Peru, etc. What kind and amount of betting is involved?

April 28th, 2003, 12:15 AM	#10
Ad Infinitum Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 95 Posts: 95 vCash: 500	BrilleSeeker, I believe I saw that fight as well. I believe Chavit Singson's entry name at that time was "Northerners" if I am not mistaken. Panalo nga siya but it was not an easy win.

April 28th, 2003, 05:52 PM	#11
bulikis Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 9 Posts: 9 vCash: 500	WSD (2001 or 2002? . . . basta noong mag-champion ang Winslet ni D. Lim). nalimutan ko ang names ng competing entries. ang pusta ay 1.1M vs. 33T. wala pa sa plasada ng llamado ang pusta ng dehado. nalimutan ko rin kung sino ang nanalo . . . mukhang napakalimutin ko na yata ah . . . tsk tsk

April 28th, 2003, 07:17 PM	#12
bam2626 Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	Bulikis, panay kasi kain mo nang korean bug....hehehhee...beero lang.....

April 29th, 2003, 08:20 PM	#14
Sentenciador Administrator Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 875 Posts: 875 vCash: 2380	gerry gerry, They bet big also in the US. Not as much as Filipinos. But it can get to the thousands of dollars per fight. Mexico bets big too (they are similar to Pinoys ) Cheers! Anyone else? Guam, Hawaii, Malaysia??

April 30th, 2003, 10:59 AM	#15
Sentenciador Administrator Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 875 Posts: 875 vCash: 2380	Addendum... Might as well mention it, Cubans (Wherever they are in the world) Play $2,000 fights. MINIMUM. Naked Heel. Since, we're talking gambling, I guess I can speak... Big BETS on COCKFIGHTS! Gamefowl breeding and Cockfighting will always be there. ALWAYS! And betting, is always a part of it... Saw a picture of a Brazilian farm in Gamecock magzine... The place was protected by guard towers and M-60 machine guns... It's a big deal! Sorry for blabbing, but that's the way it is Thanks.

April 30th, 2003, 01:44 PM	#16
cesario Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LINANG Posts: 716 Posts: 716 vCash: 500	sangat lang leo dee ng agusan, 1,320 m vs. atong ang ng manila 33t. panalo ang llamado, 1994 cebu derby

May 1st, 2003, 02:54 PM	#17
swallow Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,850 Posts: 1,850 vCash: 500	additional... I have heard a lot of big bets but when it comes to consistency i think nobody beat the guts of Danny Pe. He used the ZW during his time and was the reason behind the price of the ZW birds. Danny Pe bets a minimum P110K in the pit until this time, but during his heydays he would always have it open parada, to the point that his money would be on "logro" on top of the center ring, and together with him is a secretary/accountant that records all the money bets and at what logro. He usually won. Lately, he fights a lot in Dampalit, malabon and as usual it danny Pe against the whole pit, when his bird losses you can feel the whole pit shake as if an earthquake has just take place. Nobody can beat the guts of this man...

May 1st, 2003, 09:30 PM	#18
dong1967 CyberFriends Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,109 Posts: 1,109 vCash: 500	guys the person youre mentioning on the board MR. LEO DEE is actually MR. LEO DY a known big bettor in BUTUAN CITY he owns DY TEBAN HARDWARE which according to sources earns about million pesos per day. i recall last may of 1994 BUTUAN town fiesta derby my fathers bird pits agaisnts his, our parada was 22k only and his birds parada was open bet....the result patay.... yung manok namin di nakasugat .nakantyawan pa kami habang tinatari-an yung manok namin...sabi ng handler nila mukha daw taga barrio manok namin. hehheehhe talo na nga kantyawan pa.ang lugro? 10- 6 lang naman. dong1967

May 2nd, 2003, 04:27 AM	#19
Ad Infinitum Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 95 Posts: 95 vCash: 500	swallow, si danny pe ba ay related kay jun pe? kasi si jun pe gumagamit din ng zamboanga fowl. favorite bet niya per sultada: P77,000.

May 2nd, 2003, 11:51 AM	#20
BHOK Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 65 Posts: 65 vCash: 500	I've seen Danny Pe several times in Laloma. Yes, his normal center bet was 110k, aside from his outside bet. I believed he has one of the best birds I have seen in a hackfights. And his winning percentage is high,(ako rin,hehhe,syempre dun tayo sa lamang pupusta,,heheh) He and his handlers were good in matchmaking. That is probably the reason why they win a lot in hackfights. Cheers

May 3rd, 2003, 02:23 PM	#21
swallow Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,850 Posts: 1,850 vCash: 500	hmmmm... Ad infinitum, Don't really know if related sila but i agree that Jun Pe also uses zamboanga fowl. Bhok, Danny Pe pays big money for good quality fowls, that is why he also bets big, not to mention that he has that gambler's guts. Lumalaban yan ng ubusan...hehehe, another additional info about DP is that he just happen to be the first entry i heard na nagpwera ng laban in a derby becoz hindi nakasa yung 110K nya, binibigyan lang sya ng 11K...hehehe

May 4th, 2003, 12:53 PM	#22
BHOK Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 65 Posts: 65 vCash: 500	My Mistake, It should be....... One of the reason why he wins a lot in hackfights. Yes, Swallow, your right, he pays big money to acquire a quality fowls. Im just curious, is he also participating in bigtime derbies such as WSD,UCAP Derbies,etc....If so, what is his entry name?

May 11th, 2003, 12:22 PM	#23
junior Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	Malaking pusta Fchamp, I saw a fight against two buliks here in Sydney, Australia ang pusta was $41,000. The Loser tumakbo.... aray ko ang sakit. Next fight an Old Filipino Man bet $17,000 on his rooster...he won in the drag after 40 minutes.....Ruble hatch daw 5 time winner kaya 1 year na savings niya pinusta sa manok......kakatakot..muntik nang matalo. YFIS Junior

May 12th, 2003, 12:12 AM	#24
dvaleros Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 150 Posts: 150 vCash: 500	Being in the Miltary and traveling the world, I have seen fights from Guam, Hawaii, U.S and the Philippines. In the states the biggest bet I have seen is approximately $10,000, Hawaii is about $25,000 and the rooster was a B or C rated bird, Guam about $3000 and not worth anymore and the philippines, P1.2 million which is about $24,000 at a consistent rate. by far the birds of RP and the Mainland U.S are very tough and I would be sheddin off water weight if I were to bet that much. In San Manuel Cockpit, Isabela, the bets were ave. about P200,000=$4000U.S or so. Of course, around Batangas and Manila a lot higher. I plan on attending some derbies in Cebu in the Future Just putting my 2 cents in FIS Dwight V French Camp Game Farm

May 12th, 2003, 12:34 AM	#25
crispulo Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	the largest center bet i've witnessed was made by atong ang at the san juan, sometime in 1992, just a few fights after a bird he handled was badly whipped by its opponent and lost around 500K. His initial bet was 1M, but mayor jessie viceo was given the microphone by the pit manager so he could square the bet - obviously a member of his circle owns the cock atong's bird is up against. teasing, mayor viceo asked atong: "wala na ba?" atong obliged and said he was wagering another million. A few seconds later mayor viceo squared the bet and there was applause in the arena that incidentally was managed by atong at that time. matapos ang pre-game preparations, binitiwan ang mga ibon. lipad ng mataas ang ke atong, at mas matagal pa siguro ang nagiging panghihingi ni mayor viceo ng pusta sa laban. ang resulta, si atong nakabawi sobra-sobra pa.

January 17th, 2004, 06:06 AM	#26
bvhal331 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 165 Posts: 165 vCash: 500	Which international derbies does biggest bets normally and usually occurs? WSD, Candellaria or in Roligon?

January 20th, 2004, 09:20 PM	#27
Wintuha Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	At present the sabungero who wages big center bet is Gerry Ramos. Last year 2003 WSD, he waged P1.1 million naikasa ni Calvo, di ko na lang matandaan kung sino ang nanalo. 2nd fight, he waged P1.6 million. Last Monday in 2004 WSD, wala akong alam na in millions na center bet.

January 20th, 2004, 10:36 PM	#28
j_capul CyberFriends Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 475 Posts: 475 vCash: 500	nde ba 1.3 M daw ang parada nung kay idol patrick kagabi na sya mismo ang nag bitaw na hinde man lang nakasugat? tsk tsk tsk. kung tutuo yun, 1.3M walang kalaban laban dahil pilay tari agad sya.

March 21st, 2006, 07:31 AM	#29
cockattack Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	highest bet Update: ang pinakamalaking nasaksihan ko ay yung laban ng candelaria last year between Patrick Antonio and Jesry Palmares. $2.2 million ang pusta at nadehado si idol dito. ang resulta ng fight nailampaso ni JP si PA medyo malas kasi dahil napilay kaagad ang kay PA kayat maagang nasibak. ang proof nito ay yung Video na produce ng AD3 nila Al Delicana.

March 21st, 2006, 07:46 AM	#30
zrauloh Posts: n/a Posts: n/a vCash:	Dollar?

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