[kimora]

Hi guys, I just would like to know your opinion regarding this matter. Most of the members of this site were American citizens/ soldiers. Am just curious of your opinions. CHEERS.

PEACE not WAR




POPEYE

Kim,
PEACE not war especially if you only have a son.If they do start this military draft for the kids i think it's time to go back to Lupang Hinirang na he-he-he.

"sunshine"

[kimora]

Yes you're right guys. But I think Bush is really pleased to have war with Iraq.

Peace http://www.gamefowl.com/images/smilies/yes.gif

[Maning]

I oppose any kind of war. But, with this regime that wants to destabilize the world, I would rather see america's sons and daughters help eliminate them. I don't want to see another world trade center to be down or maybe something worse. We must not wait for it to happen again.

-maning-

I agree with maning

[sabit singson]

War or no war, United States will be attack by terrorists..

U.S. was attack before.. I see no reason that they will not be hit again even if U.S. don't declare war..

U.S. should act now..

Any inaction will be will be thougt by terrorists as a weakness..

[roy reyes]

once john lennon sing this song:all we are saying is GIVE PEACE A CHANCE,the message is very clear,no to war,i hope osama bin laden sing this song also,he,he.

[GoldenDragon]

I am sorry but I have to agree with Pres. Bush , cut the serpents head now before it grows more heads.

I love peace too and I like to make love not war !!! yeah jimbo thats right love not war lol !!!

but even here in the PI there is no peace, we are warring against the left , the ultraright, the muslims, the christians, the pirates, the terrorist , the hoodlooms. sus ang daming kalaban !!!
not to mention those against mother earth too.
and those people against sabong.

cheers and mabuhay !!!

Saddam is just too stubborn. Everyone must want peace except him. So, since the war is imminent...... Hit 'em hard, hit 'em fast, then hit 'em again! http://www.gamefowl.com/images/smilies/ar15.gif

[Sundowner]

I rather make love than war. But at this point our Commander In Chief have no choice but to eliminate the bad element of tyranny and to protect the freedom loving. We don't want to have another 9-11 incident. Being an employee of Department of Defense, we are concern for our safety. It's only a matter of hours, maybe days that we will be under Threat Condition Delta. They are re-calling all the reservist and the National Guard for deterrent duties should there be any retalliation threat by any terrorist group who are still in hiding here in US.

war,why not!if they can get the support of the majority of members of security council of U.N.?:lol: :lol: :lol:

[GoodWings]

Hard to tell what would be the outcome. In the future, we could only sigh and pass judgement wishing, "they have done that" or "they should have not done that ". Hirap maging presidente, sabong na lang tayo.

Nice avatar Camarines

[Kidd Sentencia]

If this dude Sad-damn will be able or be left alone to produce weapons of mass destruction and or biological/chemical weapons, would you trust him that he won't give some to his buddies? That he won't do another Kuwait and more invasion crap? And these buddies of him, the likes of al-kidd-ah oh-sama binlandi, himas, sayads, etc., who will they use it for? You all saw the 911 tragedy...these bad dudes will not think twice in killing millions of innocent people. They'll even think they'll be doing a duty...these nutcases!

The world won't miss him...if only he will give up, then you will get your wish...no war.

Kidd

p.s. heck, it will be a one-sided fight anyway, is that war? heheheh...buti kung makatama yang **** na yan.

[kimora]

That, I think is the real reason. Everybody knows that North Korea were developing their nuclear war heads, but Bush never bully them as he is doing it now with Iraq. There are a lot of people who also died and are dying now in Iraq because of the UN embargo. If they attack IRAQ, will it be the end???? NO, because attacking IRAQ will only make new Bin Ladens. If IRAQ is willing to disarm, then it is better for everboby. Till here for now, hehehehe, magsasara itong internet cafe.

[Kidd Sentencia]

...and personal too, heheheh...pareng Kim!

That's why the Chinese, French, the German, and Russians are not into it. Cause Iraq's equipment are made from their places! Some European countries are known to shy away from war every time too. But, they accept dirty monies that truly robbed the poor ones.

UN sanctions are not the reason for the sufferings of innocent people in Iraq; it's Saddam!

To say that Bin Laden will multiply is being a pessimist, imho. Korea and Iraq are like apples and oranges, parehong kontrabida pero ang Iraq ay ginamit na niya ng ilang beses ang chemical weapons niya, sa sariling tao niya pa. Pati lintek na anak nito eh pinatay niya, sino kayang ama ang makapapatay sa anak? Alam ba natin ang history ni Saddam? How he ascended into the total power control of Iraq? Di ba lahat ng kasama niya nuon na nag-coup e isa-isa niyang tinawag while their assembly is in session...then inawtomatik sa likod ng building.

Well, everybody has their own opinion on this...some get it from the media, streets, groups, etc. But, me...heheheh, nababasa ko lang sa pambalot ng tinapa.

heheheh,

Kidd

p.s. The US just beefed up their forces in Asia for Korea, biwanbamers are now close by.

[CYMRU]

I totally support Pres.Bush for this war against Iraq. Saddam has a link to Al Qaeda. If the result of this war will have many Bin Ladens, we will finish all of them and I'll take one in my account. It's either you're with us or against us. Sabi ni Fernando Poe, Jr, " PINUNO NA NI SADDAM ANG SALOP, DAPAT NA SIYANG KALUSIN." BANG! BANG! BANG!

CYMRU AMBYTH!

[roundhead]

war with Iraq or war with Islam, that is the question? The last time I heard in the news is that since 1993 after the first war The US and the UK has continued bombing the southern part of Iraq also known as the no-fly zone! before that Iraq was an important ally of the US against it's war with Iran which incidentally is a hotbed of Islamic Fundamentalists. Kuwait is a province of Iraq same as Sabah used to be a part of Sulu, but after the British Colonial power left they left their cronies (the royal family) as rulers. Think of it this way, do you think Malaysia can just enter Singapore and take it back? No way Jose! Since a lot of leaders out there are immature and dangerous and war being far away from their living rooms they wont hesistate to take the punch! And going back with Iraq, did you know that before the Iraqis invaded Kuwait they made public their intentions with the US State Department and the US Embassy in Baghdad? Did you know that there was not a single Iraqi in the Planes that slammed against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon? Most are Saudi's, Kuwaitis' and Egyptians? Did you know that according to the CIA all points lead to Saudi Royal family as the financier for the attacks? Do you know that in the United States since the jews control all the media, they equate the palestinians suicide bomber as the same group as the one's that attack the US? OPEN YOUR EYES AND FIGHT FOR THE TRUTH my friends, Israelis' are mostly Russian, German and eastern European descent, they are not indegenous to those lands, they grabbed the lands of the Palestinians(Jesus is one of them), they have not paid for the land! The reason why Saudi Arabia cannot be attacked because the Americans who operate in the oil fields are from Texas(!). Now do the math there. Now how will war affect the Philippines? Let's put it this way, we a former US Colony that is one of the poorest country in the world. We are a laughing stock, before our country was seen as a hope a mini america of some sort, now we are just a banana republic with a constipated economy! Do you think America will help us if we go to war with Israel, they'll probably annihilate us! Open your eyes!

[roundhead]

oh yes before I forget!

Christian America wake up!

take back!

Drive the enemy out!:zippo:

[Kidd Sentencia]

duh! Roundhead...yes, those are mentioned in the history books and newspapers, ang magz, etc. But I find them your own analysis and opinion so let me say right away that I respect that.

bow,

Kidd

[roundhead]

I am not saying that I am all that right, and I would encourage all of you to make your own opinions. it is just the belief and hope in me that one day human beings would see one another as brothers in this one world of ours instead of trying to make right from a string of wrongs. instead of looking for new life in our outer space how about putting some value in every human life here in earth?

[Pinolim]

Pareng roundhead, I believe you that someday in the not so distant future, men will finally come to the recognition that they are all brothers but PEACE will never come to fruition because men are born warriors just like roosters. The first warrior was Cain, the brother of Abel. There was no Peace with just 2 persons how much more with millions of persons?

[ktrix]

BAN the products of these 4 countries like french wines and perfumes today is the deadline of U.S and G. Britain March 17
for unconditional disarmament or Saddam exile i don't think so Saddam is stubborn leader and wants a global war make it happen let's see grrr

[LUPIN3]

me kasabihan " PAG ME GIYERA, ME PERA" :rbounce:

[roundhead]

Pinolim to be honest with you, if I see myself as a warrior I wont have the freedom to browse the internet and respond to this. Because either I will be in death row or probaly dead. I am happy to come home each night able to rest, smile at my funny face without having to deal withany untoward incident in the streets. I leave the warriors to the roosters that is why I like them so much, they are my outlet. They cuss one another, they pick fights and try to dominate one another and wont stop until they reach their objective which is Total Domination, until the next bad boy steps up and slices them in half!

anyway you guys are also right, if there's war theres' money (I guess you guys are from SoCal) provided you are engineer at HoneyWell, Boeing and other defense contractor. In the meantime Paaano naman ang pinas? Nakabenta si Sarao at si Francisco? Eh si Andoks? Diba? Yun lang mga amigo! Maybe one day si Andok will be able to diversify into "gyro magnetic" technology! :lol:

[roundhead]

by the way just to share something to you guys an extension from the whole diversification thing.....

did you know that the Rover company the makers of Range Rover, Land Rover and the Discovery. Now wholly owned by BMW motors. Started in 1948 using chassis of the willys jeep, the same humble begginings of Sarao and Francisco, what happened next is .... well you know what happened.

so what's going happen now is gulpihan na! uupakan ng husto itong si Saddam! siguradong gulpi sarado to pre, tipong 10:1 baka wala pang 1. anyway yun na yon mga igan!

[kimora]

Well, it seems that nobody really can stop Bush in having this war with Iraq. Not even the United Nations. So what is the use anyway of the United Nations? It is better they abolish it, dahil nandiyan naman si Bush, walang kinikilalang nakakataas sa kanya yan. He thinks he is the best in the world. I just only wish that the casualties of the American soldiers be at minimum. The Iraquis thought they had been long dead, so condolence na lang doon sa mga mamamatayang Kano. That is what your president wants, so be it. With regards to the boycott that KTRIX wants against France, they only wants to settle it in a peaceful manner, di gaya ni Bush parang brownred. Hindi kasi uso sa Iraq ang people's power kaya hindi maalis alis si Saddam. One more thing, I wish those who declares war should also go to war with their armies, so they will think twice. This is my own opinion and pls. don't tell na nabasa ko lang ito sa diyaryo or , books or magasine, like the report of UK about Iraq, copied from books and magazines.

[Kidd Sentencia]

Who's Smarter by Cindy Osborne

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The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid",
"morons", and Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in
Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on
November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other than Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and
see the truth!

Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of
the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has
seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in
June 1958. His further academic achievements include a
Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service
Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in
his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country. (Note: He retired as Four Star General in the United States Army)

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of
White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77.

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private
practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first
enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, *** Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the
University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (*** Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from
Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the
Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German
reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender--Integrated Training
in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation,
the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and
East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand
Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in
Birmingham, Al abama, she resides in Washington, D.C.
So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:

Barbra Streisand: Completed high school
Career: Singing and acting

Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade
Career: Singing and acting